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all right guys just let me know if

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there's any sound issues

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i will go once you guys say you can hear

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it's been a pretty good day

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if you're interested in correcting

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people alleged crasher people

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because i think that's for me

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most important thing here but let me

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know moving the chat

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you guys can hear me

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and then i will bring up the

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blindness yeah thanks my haircut was a

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lot shorter when i got it now it's

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starting to grow in a little normal

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so let me let me know audio-wise is okay

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and i'll wait make sure somebody tell me

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that it's okay

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how about now

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just tell me if it's a little better now

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i'm not getting connected it might get

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connected damn it

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let's

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see you know what's that all right great

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columns only

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screwing with my microphone let me see

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you know

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usually there's an easy easy way to look

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and make sure that it's not here right

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now damn it

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second there we go

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audio it's been a while

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now you should be able to hear me

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and then that so that should be good

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right there tell me if it's too loud

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this should be not echo no echo

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let me know i shouldn't have to i i

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good stupid me i didn't check the

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setting all right let me pull up the uh

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the language and

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i'm sure there's some of it i'm not

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going to understand i haven't even had

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to look up some basic words before

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yes my beautiful voice voice gabby

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and adhd yeah all right good good let me

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language for the

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ndaa so the national defense

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authorization act

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so there it is so

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basically you guys know that

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in the hearing in may

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mike gallagher who was kind of not on

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anybody's radar introduced

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the wilson davis notes memo into the

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public record

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i didn't expect it nobody expected it i

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know some people were saying maybe it

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will be and i was like no way it's not

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going to be in just don't don't even

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expect that but it happened so then

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later on i heard from some folks that

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gallagher was not gonna let it go and i

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heard some other things that i can't

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share but you can imagine

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wilson davis he's just not gonna pull it

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out of thin air and introduce it so he's

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been speaking to people

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learning about it

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and so it was entered into the record

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we had gary nolan say that the immunity

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language was 90 percent done and i heard

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from somebody that we were getting close

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and today it happened so here's the

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language and i'm gonna go through it and

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and then i'm gonna go through a summary

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that dean johnson did dean johnson does

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great work on this

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all this stuff i was hoping to have him

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on but he's not he's not able to speak

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about it yet and i was hoping he would

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write something up and he did on

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facebook which i'll read that too so

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i'll go through the nine pages it might

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be a little boring especially with the

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congressional legalese so it starts off

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i'll skip some of the formalities

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this is gallagher his language but

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gallego's name is included too you'll

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see when i read dean's

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uh facebook post

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so authorization for reporting it says

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notwithstanding in other words in spite

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of the terms of any other written or

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oral non-disclosure agreement

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order or other instrumentality or means

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that could be interpreted as a legal

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constraint on reporting by a witness of

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an unidentified aerial phenomena

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so in other words despite any nda they

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reporting in accordance with the system

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with this new language

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those folks are hereby authorized and

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shall be deemed

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to comply with any regulation or order

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executive order blah blah blah

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related to classified national security

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head of the office on behalf of the

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secretary of defense and this is just

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talking about the report

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on behalf of the secretary of defense

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and the director of national

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intelligence should shall establish a

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secure system

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for receiving reports of any event

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programs they're referring to

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so protection of systems programs and

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paragraph one shall serve as a mechanism

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to prevent unauthorized public reporting

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military and intelligence systems

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programs and related activity so any

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classified stuff is not going to get out

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that includes all categories and levels

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of special access and compartmented

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access programs current historical and

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future so we're like oh so in other

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words we're not going to hear about any

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of those special access programs this

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sucks that's what i'm reading it at the

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first time and i'm like

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that's not good

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but there's more later on which is good

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which is good so the system established

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pursuant to paragraph one shall be

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by designated and widely known easy

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the system established on the paragraph

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supporting analysts and scientists of

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cleared government personnel

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this this typos here i believe conclude

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that the preponderance of information

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associated events enact in activities

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likely relate to a special access

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program so they can report what they saw

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ufo related unless unless it becomes

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obvious uh that's one of our special

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uh pieces of technology we don't want to

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to an sap or compartmented access

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program that as of the date of the

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reporting has been explicitly and

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this is important so if it belongs to a

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program a special access program that

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has been explicitly and clearly reported

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to the congressional defense committees

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committees like normal and is documented

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documented as meeting those criteria so

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if it's part of the system because

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there's all of those programs

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that will not be reported so we're fine

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with that that's not that's not the

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problem that's not the problem the

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then i'll do

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i'll read dean's summary

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uh i'm probably only going to do this

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for an hour although i always say that

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and i go longer

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initial initial report so we're on three

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still an initial report in publication

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not later than 180 days after the date

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information and put out a report

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not later than 180 days after after the

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enactment of this act which i think is

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blah blah blah

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they'll submit the report to the

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congressional intelligence committees

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the congressional defense committees and

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and the report will detail the system

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established on the paragraph one

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nothing real exciting yet you know it's

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like all right this is cool

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make available to the public on a

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website of the dod

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clear public guidance for assessing and

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about the expected timeline there's

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witness number one hello i worked in the

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crash retrieval program starting in

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1989. i met a guy named bob lazar and

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i'm i'm kidding about lazar but not

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really but you know that's the people

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who believe lazar would just flip out if

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that happened and if anybody has not

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read my lazar piece on my blog it's a 50

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50 i believe him i don't believe him

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um but yeah you want to we want us we

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want to hear and see transcriptions if

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we don't see the actual people of people

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who worked in these programs that's the

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that's like the holy grail of what we

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so annual reports and it gets into some

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once again congressional leadership

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get to the good stuff

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let's see so they can report

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to the majority of leader of the senate

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that's congressional congressional

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leadership is considered the majority

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leader of the senate that was harry reid

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back in the day the minority leader of

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the senate the speaker of the house of

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representatives the minority leader of

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the heads of such other departments and

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agencies of the federal and i'm sorry

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sorry some of this is boring i'm going i

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don't have i went through it earlier

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identification of non-disclosure

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agreements the secretary of defense the

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director of national intelligence the

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secretary of homeland security the heads

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of such other departments and agencies

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of the federal government that's that

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have supported investigations of the

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types of events covered in subparagraph

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one of subtextion blah blah blah

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government supporting such activities

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and programs shall conduct comprehensive

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searches of all records related to

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other obligations related to the types

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of events described in subsection a uap

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stuff and provide copies of all relevant

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documents and i just skipped something

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other there's all relevant documents to

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accessible to the congressional

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intelligence committees the

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congressional defense committees and

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leadership no later than september 30th

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2023 so we got a long ways to go when by

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the time this is done and then each year

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that report will be issued until the

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year 2026.

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so that doesn't mean we're waiting until

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2026 it means once a year until 2026. i

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don't know how that's gonna look how

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that's all gonna play out

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when we get the first deadline september

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next year i don't know if we're gonna

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have a bunch of witnesses i don't know

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if we're gonna get to hear from them

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like i said on twitter it's a first step

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so it's a first step and we needed this

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first step

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remember we still have the senate too um

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and there may be there may be more

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coming i i don't know

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but protection from liability it shall

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not be a violation of section 798 of

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title 18

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or any and i'm not gonna i don't know

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everything that says but we can assume

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um

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it's related to speaking about

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it should not be a violation of any

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other provision of law and no cause of

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actions a lot lie or be maintained in

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any court or other tribunal against any

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person for reporting any information

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through and in compliance with the

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system established pursuant to subject

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subsection one so

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you have something to say about ufos if

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you were in the 2019 event

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that jeremy corbell and george knapp

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have reported about you want to talk

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about what you saw

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you can speak about that and not worry

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about any repercussions whatsoever

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so that is huge

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and i don't know how if we're going to

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hear from those people before then i

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know jeremy corbell said if they get

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immunity he will he'll release

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everything and he has those folks on

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record

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from 2019 so we get to hear from them

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and as i said before

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i'm open-minded about that it could be

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drones and if those folks come out and

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they tell us what they saw we may all

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say

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oh my god it was drones what the hell

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what was the hype all about i'm not

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saying that's happening because as far

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as i know there's still 2019 is still

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labeled unknown

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so if you were listening to listening to

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the spaces the other night we had

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somebody who actually saw

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the report on the stippernet and said

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it's still labeled unidentified 2019

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west coast so and i've heard the same

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thing still i want to hear the witnesses

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as far as lazar

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i don't know

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i would as i've said i would love i

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would love for his story to be real

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do i do i want it to be real i mean

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it's not really i want it to be real i

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just whatever whatever's real or fake if

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he's lying whatever i mean

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i would love it because it's a fun

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that's a great story i mean imagine we

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really had nine flying saucers of course

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they could be our back engineered techno

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technology

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um

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i don't know as with most of the things

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with this phenomenon i don't know

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so prohibit prohibition on repo

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reprisals

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an employee of a federal agency and an

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employee of a contractor for the federal

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government who has authority to take

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direct others to take recommend or

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approve any personnel action shall not

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with respect to such authority take or

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fail to take or threaten to take or fail

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to take a personnel action including

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their revocation or suspension of

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security clearances with respect to any

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individual as a reprisal for any

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reporting so in other words

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if i go report what i saw your boss my

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boss can't say

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you just lost your security clearance so

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that that's another huge thing they

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don't have to worry about losing their

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security clearance which

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it may bring forth a lot of people i

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don't know i don't know how many people

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are gonna feel safe with this language

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but it's only the beginning this

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language is gonna change we're gonna get

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the senate involved

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i cannot wait i've been waiting to hear

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senator gillibrand

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i want to see her

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speak to bray and moultrie and anybody

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else because she's really good at

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holding their feet to the fire if you

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saw that when she was

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dealing with the guy who was the

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he was up for the ig of the i don't know

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if it was the entire dod but she was

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asking him questions and say you better

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find out before you come back to me we

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haven't heard back from that guy but he

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was rolling his eyes and she was she was

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having none of it so i want to see her

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oh private right of action in a case in

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which an employee described in paragraph

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2 takes a personnel action against an

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individual so

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if my boss says you just talked about

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ufos i'm going to take away your

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security clearance

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the individual me who spoke out may

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bring a private civil action for all

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appropriate remedies including

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injunctive relief and comp compensate

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compensate compensator i can't speak

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compensatory and punitive damages

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against the government or other employer

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who took the personnel action so if you

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if you do anything to threaten me with

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reprisal for you know you say you're

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going to take away my security clearance

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like lou said he's had done to him

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you can sue the government or the

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employer who took the action against you

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which if this makes it through the law

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it's going to be huge it's going to be

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really important will it make it through

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uh review by inspectors general not

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later than one year after the date of

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the enactment of this act the inspector

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general of the dod and inspector general

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of the intelligence community shall each

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conduct an assessment of the compliance

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with the requirements of this section

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and the operation and efficiency of the

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system established under section b

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boring

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submit to the

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congressional intelligence committees

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the congressional defense committees and

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i'm sure this is not boring but it's

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boring for us because

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um

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so they're going to submit a report the

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ig will submit a report on their

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respective findings with respect to the

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assessments they conducted under

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paragraph one

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from congressional intelligence

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communities blah blah blah

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goes through definitions i know i i need

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to go back because i did miss something

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find a uap okay so let me just go back

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to the most important thing which i

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forgot it's not obvious when you're

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reading it it's definitely not obvious

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so

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let me find it because it's really

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here we go

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darn it

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i can i can read it to you

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it's basically says

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and i read it

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if there is a program that is reported

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and it's related well those programs are

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related to classified information

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then those programs are covered they're

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not we're not going to get the

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information

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sorry

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let me go back a little

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i'm sorry guys here we go sharing of

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information the system established under

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paragraph one

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this is the most important piece shall

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provide for the immediate sharing with

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office personnel and supporting analysts

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and scientists of information previously

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prohibited from reporting under any

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non-disclosure written or oral agreement

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order or other instrumentality or means

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except in cases where the cleared

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government personnel administrating

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administering such system

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conclude that the preponderance of

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information available regarding the

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reported indicates that the observed

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object and associated events and

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activities likely relate to a special

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access program or compartmented access

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program that as of the date of the

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reporting has been it's explicitly and

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clearly reported to the congressional

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defense committees and congressional

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intelligence committees and is

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documented as meeting those criteria and

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i asked somebody about this somebody in

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the know somebody who's aware of this

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language i said

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what does that mean does that mean if

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there's a program that's not reported

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that's off the books is that not covered

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in this and they said yes that's the key

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so if there's a program say you know

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supposedly there's four related special

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access programs related to ufos

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if those programs are

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located and they haven't been reported

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to congress

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they're fair game and that's really

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important those are the programs we want

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and you guys have seen this i've i've

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i've posted this before many times on

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twitter

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let me get rid of let me get rid of this

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and pull it up

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so give me one second

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oh darn it it's not here of course oh i

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know i know where it is

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darn it

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it's here

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all right

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i'm gonna read this and i know you guys

532
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have seen this before

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going to read it again

534
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let's see

535
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so what programs are we talking about so

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alleged ufo

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related programs alleged crash retrieval

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programs

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and i had a source when i did my wilson

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davis

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mega blog um who told me this various

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people within the united states

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government

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in positions of oversight

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and who you would think had access to

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all uap programs

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did not find the uap crash retrieval

548
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program when they looked because they

549
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never knew of its existence i and others

550
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in my circle have discussed the topic

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with them of how one cannot find waived

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unacknowledged saps that operate outside

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of section 119 of the title of title 10

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in fact a dod office can create a shell

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company and then transfer funds to it

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under an unremarkable commercial defense

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services contract this way this is the

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way they hide

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a crash retrieval program

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then that shell company turns around and

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gives a subcontract to a third-party

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aerospace defense firm that hosts a

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waived unacknowledged sap

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that operates outside of section 119 of

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title 10.

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this usually hides making the audit

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trail terminate at the shell company

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the flow of money going to the third

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party company that's running a waived

570
00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:00,159
unacknowledged sap where a uap crash

571
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:03,279
retrieval program is hidden so in other

572
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:04,480
words

573
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,520
people don't know about it in the

574
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:07,120
government it's hidden

575
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:08,880
that is not covered under that language

576
00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:10,640
where oh this is this is national

577
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:12,320
security you know this is national

578
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:14,159
security we can't talk about that those

579
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,320
programs the one i just read especially

580
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:18,240
if there's a crash retrieval program

581
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:20,000
that is not covered under that now what

582
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:21,360
that looks like when people come out and

583
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:23,360
speak about it i don't know i don't know

584
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:26,240
how that looks um but we'll get to see

585
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:28,400
if this language makes it into into the

586
00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:30,640
ndaa and we have a long way to go you

587
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:31,919
know we still have the senate to deal

588
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:33,279
with this remember how it was last year

589
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:34,480
with the language we were we were

590
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:39,669
but it made it in and we got a lot of

591
00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:41,520
stuff in there we didn't expect

592
00:24:45,909 --> 00:24:44,320
talking about exploitation of uaps which

593
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:45,919
basically is crash retrievals which lou

594
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:48,159
confirmed um

595
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:49,760
and i see everybody's people saying

596
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:51,120
hello hello tom

597
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,240
um

598
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,480
let me read you dean's

599
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:56,240
summary which is pretty quick and then

600
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,080
you guys can ask any questions and use

601
00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:00,400
the link to join you know when i when i

602
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:02,000
when we do spaces i did one for the

603
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:03,760
first third time the other night it was

604
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:06,720
like nine a thousand people came in

605
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:09,520
i think 100 people spoke or 50 people

606
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:12,080
saw what i was hoping to do a youtube

607
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:13,520
spaces type thing because you can always

608
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:15,200
put tape on your camera if you don't

609
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,720
want to show your face

610
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:18,080
for some reason people don't want to do

611
00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:19,520
it here though

612
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,029
here we go so this is dean's analysis

613
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:29,760
let me make it bigger

614
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:31,520
all right

615
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:33,200
so dean put this on facebook i'm so glad

616
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:34,799
that he did so this is a lot shorter he

617
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,720
goes breaking news two members of the

618
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:38,559
u.s house of representatives committee

619
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,120
on armed services gallagher

620
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,679
and intelligence and special operations

621
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:45,600
committee com subcommittee chairman

622
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:50,950
apps let me get it bigger

623
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,360
i have submitted a groundbreaking nine p

624
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,440
nine page uap related amendment for

625
00:26:03,590 --> 00:25:57,279
possible addition to the house version

626
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:05,669
among other things the proposal would

627
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,159
require establishment of a secure system

628
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:10,480
under which the central pentagon uap

629
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:12,400
office as revamped by congress in

630
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:14,720
december 2021

631
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:16,880
may receive information about possible

632
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:20,080
previously unreported uap related

633
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,760
programs

634
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,520
it's so huge if we get this language in

635
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:25,039
and we go forward on this this is what

636
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:26,240
we've been wanting it's probably the

637
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:27,600
biggest news

638
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:31,520
of legislation and anything related

639
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:32,880
legally

640
00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:35,039
in the history of the subject so

641
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:36,799
if we get this and i don't know how long

642
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,240
it's going to take and lou said come

643
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,840
back in five years if you want to talk

644
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:41,520
crafts and bodies

645
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:43,120
um i don't know if it's gonna take five

646
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,799
years but the ball is rolling so

647
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,919
you know

648
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:49,520
unless we have another

649
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,159
ufo crash and we have it live on

650
00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:54,960
television or some massive sighting this

651
00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:57,200
is so important it's so important that

652
00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:59,840
we have this gallego spoke to the right

653
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:02,080
people the right people not gallego

654
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:04,720
gallagher and gallego too um

655
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:07,840
so kudos to both of them and it's

656
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,919
dean continues he goes

657
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:11,360
so

658
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,120
they're gonna may receive information

659
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,440
about possible previously unreported uap

660
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:17,600
related programs or data held anywhere

661
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:19,360
within the government

662
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:20,559
and

663
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,029
that you guys want to join tom i know

664
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:29,360
you've joined me before in private feel

665
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:32,080
free to join after i read this with dean

666
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,510
so

667
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,360
um

668
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:41,600
so that information reported would be

669
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,240
then transmitted

670
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,399
by to key lawmakers the proposal would

671
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:49,200
provide legal protections

672
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,600
for current or past military

673
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,440
past military there could be so many

674
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:55,360
witnesses from this past military

675
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:58,960
whoever's alive from the 40s or 50s

676
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:00,960
past military and intelligence agency

677
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:03,120
employees government contractors

678
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:05,679
the government contractors would be

679
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:08,159
crash retrieval related i believe um i

680
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,600
don't know if it was all the government

681
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,520
contractors but that's the that's what

682
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,960
wilson davis says you know one of the

683
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,159
best top

684
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:16,320
aerospace companies is in control of

685
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:20,000
that craft alleged intact craft

686
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:21,600
they can all come come forward to

687
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:23,760
provide uap related information through

688
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,799
this secure system

689
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:28,399
as i read this proposal it does not

690
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,559
include any new legal obligations for

691
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,240
individuals in possession of such

692
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:34,480
information so yeah that's a big part

693
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:36,000
that's missing right now maybe we'll get

694
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:38,000
it later so there's nothing that says if

695
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:40,159
you don't come forward as lou said if

696
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:41,840
you don't come forward you're going to

697
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,760
jail in six months for being part of an

698
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:45,520
illegal program whatever whatever the

699
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,840
legality is there is not anything like

700
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,360
that in this language

701
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:51,039
hopefully that comes because that will

702
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,799
push these people to come forward this

703
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,880
you know if it's me like you're like all

704
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:56,720
right i don't want to go to jail

705
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,960
so i will tell you what i know

706
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,399
i'm sure there'll be some people who

707
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:02,159
just refuse to put up the information

708
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,120
because they think it's too

709
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,279
world-changing and people can't handle

710
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:07,120
it i mean i talked to somebody who's in

711
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:08,799
the wilson davis notes

712
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,520
and one of the things they told me

713
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:13,440
and it's in my mega blog he's like you

714
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,720
don't want to bring this information

715
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:16,320
forward it would ruin religions it would

716
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:18,080
just be bad nothing good can come from

717
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:19,840
that so there are people like that

718
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:22,000
and that person was really connected to

719
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:23,760
the special access

720
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:24,559
um

721
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:27,919
sapco special access program

722
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:29,600
coordinating office and that's probably

723
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:33,039
wrong anyway um so dean says no legal

724
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,720
obligations for individuals in this

725
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:36,240
language in possession of such

726
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:38,000
information to report it into the system

727
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:39,760
although such requirements may already

728
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:42,159
exist in some circumstances so i don't

729
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:43,679
know what he's talking about there like

730
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,520
i said i tried to get him under current

731
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:47,039
laws so i guess if there's certain

732
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,200
certain law says if you're part of a

733
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:51,360
program that's not legal or off the

734
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:52,720
books you have to come forward i don't

735
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,360
know what he's talking about um

736
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:57,039
because rather the proposal appear

737
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:59,120
appears to provide broad protections

738
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:01,440
against legal consequences or agency

739
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:03,840
reprisals for individuals who decide to

740
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,399
report pertinent uap related information

741
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:08,559
into the new secure system and somebody

742
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:09,760
said does that mean lou could come

743
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:11,919
forward and tell everything he knows no

744
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:12,880
but

745
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:14,240
there are things and i've harped on this

746
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:16,080
before that are sensitive but not

747
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,159
classified and i'm hoping that

748
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:20,240
information can be shared if it's not

749
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:22,240
classified but it's sensitive because it

750
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,399
might embarrass the government we don't

751
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,159
care you need to tell us that

752
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:28,480
information if it's not classified share

753
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,799
it so we may may get that information

754
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:31,919
first we're obviously not getting

755
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:33,679
classified information although some of

756
00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:35,360
it should not be classified as all of us

757
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:36,399
know

758
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:39,120
if we have a craft and bodies that fact

759
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:41,440
should not be classified it's

760
00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:43,279
the whole world should know that it

761
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:44,960
doesn't mean russia is going to be able

762
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:46,880
to reverse engineer it just because we

763
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,679
say we have a craft it's nonsense

764
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:51,360
and i've heard that argument

765
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:53,440
from people i know behind the scenes and

766
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:55,360
i totally disagree with it

767
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,720
dean continues

768
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,399
the proposal does not contain any

769
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:00,240
requirement that any uap related

770
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:02,080
information reported into the new secure

771
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:04,240
system would necessarily be made public

772
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:05,760
that sucks

773
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:07,760
hopefully i mean if it's not made public

774
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:10,320
it's kind of like

775
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,240
useless not useless but we need to see

776
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,000
the stuff public to get the masses

777
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:16,159
involved we need to have witness after

778
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:18,559
witness after witness who said i worked

779
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:20,320
in the crash retrieval program this is

780
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:23,200
exactly what i did here are pictures we

781
00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:24,799
need that we need those folks we need to

782
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,919
see their names we need to see their

783
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:28,240
faces we need to look into their eyes um

784
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:29,840
obviously we need to see the craft for

785
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:31,279
ourselves i don't think that's happening

786
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:34,399
for a while if ever in my lifetime but

787
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:35,760
this is a start

788
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:37,360
the house rules committee is expected to

789
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:40,159
decide during the week of july 11th

790
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:41,279
which is

791
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:43,360
which of the nearly 1200 submitted

792
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,640
amendments there's a whole bunch of

793
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:46,799
amendments this is just one

794
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:48,880
uh this is the only uap related one that

795
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:51,600
i know of which of the nearly 1200

796
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:54,320
submitted amendments to h.r 7900 may be

797
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:56,000
considered on the floor of the house of

798
00:32:00,149 --> 00:31:57,840
representatives the full house of

799
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,159
representatives might take up the ndaa

800
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,240
and consider in-order amendments during

801
00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:04,080
the same week or during the following

802
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,919
week so we're going to know pretty quick

803
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:07,919
where this language is going

804
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:10,080
there is no uap language in the version

805
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,120
of the ndaa as yet unnumbered that was

806
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:15,120
reported out of the senate armed service

807
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:16,799
committee our armed services committee

808
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:19,760
on june 16th the senate may take up its

809
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,159
version of the ndaa before the end of

810
00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:24,080
july let's hope so we need to send it on

811
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:24,880
this

812
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:28,080
i don't see why rubel rubio and and

813
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:29,600
and gillibrand will not have their own

814
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:30,720
version

815
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,200
be hammered out in negotiations between

816
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:37,440
key lawmakers on the respective senate

817
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:39,360
and house committees

818
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,799
in short the gallagher gallego proposal

819
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:45,120
still has many legislative hurdles ahead

820
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:47,600
of it but its bipartisan sponsorship is

821
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,000
a very part that's important

822
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:52,240
lots of hurdles ahead of the ahead of it

823
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,080
but it's bipartisan sponsorship is a

824
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:56,159
very positive factor senate select

825
00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:58,320
committee on intelligence on june 23rd

826
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:00,480
approved its version of an intelligence

827
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:03,440
authorization act for 2023

828
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:05,360
the bill text has not yet been made

829
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:07,519
public but a press release issued by

830
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:10,000
warner and rubio said that it contains a

831
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,720
provision enhancing oversight of

832
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:14,640
intelligence community and dod

833
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:17,440
collection and reporting of

834
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:20,320
unidentified aerospace undersea

835
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:22,399
phenomena so yeah we're dying to see

836
00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:23,679
that language

837
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,760
and hopefully it's similar to this about

838
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:27,519
giving people protection we need the

839
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,360
protection and we need to be able to get

840
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:31,440
access to these special access access

841
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:32,399
programs

842
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:34,640
if they exist and in my opinion

843
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:37,679
unless this has been one giant scam for

844
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:39,679
decades i think those programming

845
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:42,080
programs exist i once asked eric davis i

846
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:42,960
said

847
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:45,039
in your opinion on a scale of one to ten

848
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:46,799
how sure are you that there's a crash

849
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:48,960
retrieval program and he said on a scale

850
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:50,320
of one to ten

851
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:51,760
a hundred and he goes and i'm not the

852
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:53,600
only one there's people alive that

853
00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:54,720
believe that and there are people who

854
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:57,039
are now dead who believe that

855
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:58,799
believed that

856
00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:01,440
in many years but i still need to see it

857
00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:03,200
for myself and all of us do too we could

858
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:04,559
say as much as we want that we believe

859
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:06,320
it or we have opinions that it exists

860
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:08,480
but we need to see it we need to see it

861
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,520
because there are people who think it's

862
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:11,919
all a psyop like eric weinstein and i'm

863
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,639
open i'm open like this i'm keeping my

864
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:16,240
mind open because i haven't seen it for

865
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,839
myself but

866
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:19,520
i lean heavily towards this stuff

867
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:21,839
existing i don't see why they would keep

868
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:23,760
it quiet this long to full russia and

869
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,599
china or you know it would be the soviet

870
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:27,599
union we were fooling back then

871
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,200
all these years the f i mean would they

872
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,200
even buy that and it was it was kit

873
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:34,000
green i was reading uh jacques la's

874
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:36,560
forbidden science vol 4 and kit green

875
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:38,159
suggested maybe this crash retrieval

876
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,839
stuff is all to fool the russians and

877
00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:41,520
valet's like would they even buy that

878
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:43,280
would they even believe it

879
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:46,159
anyway um

880
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:48,399
in many years the ndaa and the

881
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:50,399
intelligence authorization act emerged

882
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:52,000
at a later stage in the legislative

883
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:53,760
process however this does not occur

884
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:56,159
every year and it did not occur

885
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:57,599
last year

886
00:35:02,470 --> 00:34:59,680
which were enacted separately each with

887
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:02,480
distinct but non-conflicting uap related

888
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:04,240
provisions because they work together on

889
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:05,200
it

890
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:10,550
um

891
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:12,160
nobody really commented on that from

892
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:14,000
dean which is great that dean did that

893
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:15,520
but you guys

894
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:18,000
can ask any questions and i will go

895
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:22,320
through them for another half an hour

896
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,430
so i

897
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:30,950
i'm just seeing this i know there's

898
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:32,560
comments earlier but

899
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:34,000
anyway

900
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,670
let's see

901
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:41,280
have any questions earlier just ask

902
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:43,520
again if not i'll i'll end early so it's

903
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:46,160
all right james you can watch it later

904
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:47,680
say poc the special access program

905
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:49,520
oversight committees yeah that's i spoke

906
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:51,440
with somebody

907
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,599
who had

908
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:55,119
i don't know write the right wording

909
00:36:03,030 --> 00:35:56,560
they were part of that it's in my it's

910
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:04,069
that was the

911
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:05,520
scariest thing i've ever done as far as

912
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:09,200
making a blind phone call like that

913
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:10,880
i didn't make a graphic darn i was gonna

914
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,520
make a graphic for this and i did not do

915
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:14,800
it

916
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:17,119
so anyway

917
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:18,240
you guys

918
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:25,109
oh you're welcome yeah the hearing was

919
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:27,200
good i was gonna do brazil i'm glad i'm

920
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:28,960
glad i didn't do it was so it was like

921
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:35,589
have you talked to mike smith about the

922
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:37,119
documents he uncovered while filming the

923
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:38,400
documentary that started out having

924
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:39,760
nothing to do with no i don't i don't

925
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:41,920
even know what that is so

926
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:43,920
let me know what that is i don't know

927
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,230
the b1 bomber program ended up getting

928
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,079
disclosed because northrup would have

929
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:52,000
gotten in trouble with the sec for not

930
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:53,680
notifying stockholders over material

931
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:55,680
financial information

932
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:56,960
there's going to be issues with that you

933
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:59,119
know lewis touched upon it and by the

934
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:00,400
way i know people who think that the

935
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:03,520
crash retrieval program is

936
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:05,920
foreign technology other people believe

937
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:06,839
it's

938
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:09,680
non-existent and lou has said

939
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:12,480
if it's there and some specific

940
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:14,400
aerospace company had

941
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:16,240
access to technology that other folks

942
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:17,599
did not

943
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:20,320
then that's going to be a problem we get

944
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:22,079
legally i'm gonna because the other

945
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:23,760
people had they had they had this they

946
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:26,240
had an advantage over everybody else

947
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:27,839
what's up sam

948
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:29,440
what is up joe how you doing can you

949
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:30,880
hear me okay

950
00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:32,880
i can hear you okay i can hear you very

951
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:35,839
well thank you for being a part of this

952
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,280
dude i love that you're going over it

953
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:39,359
i'm not a good i'm not good at paperwork

954
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:40,720
i'll just put it that way so it's good

955
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:43,280
to hear yeah can you lay down with this

956
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:44,800
oh you follow you follow the trails

957
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:46,320
pretty well so i'm really impressed and

958
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:47,839
it's good to hear kind of a breakdown

959
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:49,040
someone piqued my interest you were

960
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:50,720
talking about how like eric weinstein

961
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:51,839
and other people might think this is

962
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:54,320
kind of a psyop i'm very fascinated with

963
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:55,760
that perspective

964
00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:57,599
uh and eric weinstein you know like he's

965
00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:59,280
he's on the forefront and when he says

966
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:01,599
something people listen um so i'm

967
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:02,640
curious

968
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,599
with uh with this movement uh do you

969
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:07,920
think that there's going to be um

970
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:09,119
it's going to be harder for people like

971
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,359
eric to consider this all a psyop are we

972
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:13,760
moving towards like a really good uh

973
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:16,160
acknowledgement from even academics

974
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:18,160
with this type of move depends on how

975
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:19,680
many witnesses come forward and depends

976
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,520
on what they say i mean if you get

977
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:23,200
credible scientist after credible

978
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,200
scientist after credible member of the

979
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:27,520
air force or whoever these folks are

980
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:29,359
right i think it's gonna turn the tide

981
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:31,119
and people are gonna say okay obviously

982
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:33,440
not everybody is lying

983
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:35,040
it's so important if we have a couple of

984
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:36,800
people yeah but you know you look at the

985
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:38,880
wilson davis notes if that's accurate

986
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:41,200
there was 400 to 800 people on that

987
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,760
bigot list just for that one program

988
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:45,599
if we can get a percentage say we can

989
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:47,200
get 10 we get

990
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,119
the low number we get 40 people coming

991
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,440
forward and say throughout the years i

992
00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,520
worked on the program i had you know we

993
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:55,280
had an intact craft that we thought

994
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,280
could fly through other dimensions water

995
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:59,359
air space and you just get witnessed

996
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,119
after witness after witness at some

997
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:03,359
point you would think people who think

998
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,920
psyop are going to give in and say

999
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:08,000
obviously this was real whatever this

1000
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:09,440
was right

1001
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,640
you know and i don't know how they're

1002
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,720
going to show us craft if they let's say

1003
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:14,400
they have an intact craft are they going

1004
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:16,000
to show us pictures like bigelow has

1005
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:18,560
alluded to pictures video i mean we're

1006
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:20,480
not going to are they going to take it

1007
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,000
are they going to take a field trip and

1008
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:24,079
bring a videographer and say here it is

1009
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,520
i don't know how that's going to work

1010
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:27,599
yeah i wonder i think producing a film

1011
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:29,359
or a small documentary would be really

1012
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,990
especially the witnesses the witnesses

1013
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,359
who worked in the program bring them

1014
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:37,920
there yes yes and i don't know if the

1015
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:40,000
government really utilizes uh video and

1016
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,599
film as much as they should i mean with

1017
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,599
us with a nice soft music track they can

1018
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:45,280
make people feel sympathetic towards the

1019
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:47,440
cost it would be really smart for them

1020
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,960
to produce stuff like that to kind of

1021
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:50,640
get people up to speed but it is

1022
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,839
interesting that we kind of have the

1023
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:53,440
ball in our court as far as how we want

1024
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:54,160
to

1025
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:55,920
perceive this thing um but i think

1026
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:57,839
you're right like um

1027
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:59,440
a craft would be great you know what i

1028
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:00,880
mean but a lot a lot of these people

1029
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:02,720
coming forward on an official level yeah

1030
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:04,640
it would be it would mean the world and

1031
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:06,640
uh i feel like they have done that to a

1032
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:09,040
degree back with like uh even steven

1033
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,200
grier's projects you know like let's say

1034
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,760
pre 2000 2001 right

1035
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,760
there was like a he had a huge effort to

1036
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,839
get people out and talking about it but

1037
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:19,599
i will say that like

1038
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,040
one of the confusing aspects of that

1039
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,880
piece was that there wasn't really any

1040
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,960
solid bread crumbs to follow you just

1041
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,720
kind of were left knowing something was

1042
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:28,560
unknown but you didn't get a clear

1043
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,400
description of specific craft you didn't

1044
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,319
get a clear description of propulsion

1045
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:34,079
there wasn't really anything to land on

1046
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:35,839
other than that there was something

1047
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,160
there i think if we move forward um with

1048
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,319
more you know efforts to get people on

1049
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:41,920
an official level to talk about it it

1050
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:43,839
would be really nice if while they did

1051
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:46,319
that we were able to build some type of

1052
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:47,760
you know in our mind a structure for

1053
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:48,720
this stuff like where do we

1054
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:50,560
compartmentalize the craft you know

1055
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:52,240
what's what's an abduction you know this

1056
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:53,359
type of stuff i think would be really

1057
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:56,319
cool uh as they as they uh rolled this

1058
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,040
stuff out to give us a

1059
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:01,359
structure to place everything

1060
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,640
and and i don't know and i will amy i'll

1061
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:06,240
put the document in the notes as soon as

1062
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,280
we're done

1063
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:09,920
um i don't know if there would be an

1064
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,079
abduction special access program that

1065
00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:14,880
looked just into that but if there is oh

1066
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:17,119
my god imagine that imagine people

1067
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:18,880
coming forward talking about what they

1068
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,880
learned about abductions i mean

1069
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:22,560
that's not what i'm foreseeing coming

1070
00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:24,640
right now i'm for seeing amazing

1071
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:25,839
sightings and

1072
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,480
same and data and hopefully a crash

1073
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:30,560
retrieval program as far as

1074
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:33,440
as far as getting access to it um yeah

1075
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:35,520
and maybe bodies there would be biology

1076
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:37,520
i mean this is the thing that opened my

1077
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,160
mind to the psyop possibility kit green

1078
00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:41,760
in his interview with richard dolan said

1079
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:43,599
he was given multiple opportunities they

1080
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:44,800
brought him in they're like we're gonna

1081
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:46,640
read you into the top program the top

1082
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,880
ufo program and every time i don't know

1083
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:50,400
if it was two or three times at the very

1084
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:52,079
last minute they said sorry you're not

1085
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:54,000
getting read in so either he did

1086
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,359
something that they said you know we

1087
00:41:58,010 --> 00:41:57,680
can't trust this guy or it didn't exist

1088
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:58,020
um

1089
00:42:02,390 --> 00:41:59,200
[Music]

1090
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:02,400
and then also eric weinstein said he's

1091
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:03,760
been told you know he's going to be

1092
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:06,400
given information and and he's he has

1093
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,000
not been given that information so what

1094
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:10,079
the hell is going on you know yeah there

1095
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:11,920
was some like weird delay right they

1096
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:13,280
were told hey get ready something's

1097
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:15,520
going to happen yeah sam harris and him

1098
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:16,560
yeah

1099
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:20,079
sam harris like kind of like like uh

1100
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:21,680
yeah i've been told in more or less

1101
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:23,680
words that this is this is going on and

1102
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:25,280
to get ready and then we heard nothing

1103
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:26,800
and then neither did they that was

1104
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:29,200
shocking to find out but yeah yeah it's

1105
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,800
the same pattern it's the same pattern

1106
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:32,240
as kid green what happened with ken

1107
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:33,040
green

1108
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:35,599
um somebody asks mark pilkerton

1109
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:36,800
approached the subject of the scythe

1110
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,400
angle and mirage man looked at a lot of

1111
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:40,240
cold war era classified programs well

1112
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:42,000
written yeah i

1113
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:43,520
i've seen

1114
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:47,440
haven't read all of it it's interesting

1115
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,240
um

1116
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:50,319
imagine if we were all fooled all of

1117
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,760
this time i know there are people that

1118
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:53,520
believe that i don't believe that

1119
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:54,800
there's just too many witnesses

1120
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,680
especially civilians at the very least

1121
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:59,040
we have

1122
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,560
at the very least there is technology on

1123
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:02,720
this planet that does amazing things in

1124
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:05,280
my opinion but we have not seen it's all

1125
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,920
witness testimony so i have never seen a

1126
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:09,599
video that just blows me away that's

1127
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:11,040
what everybody wants

1128
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,200
and everybody wants that and you know we

1129
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:14,880
see like the nasa video that's going

1130
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:16,400
around from five years ago it's all

1131
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:18,640
right it's fine that is not gonna wake

1132
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,440
up my family and friends it's gonna be

1133
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,880
we need

1134
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:24,640
if it's an f-18 sighting where they came

1135
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:26,880
up up close you know ryan graves said

1136
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:29,119
the cube within a spear was off the wing

1137
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,560
of the plane

1138
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,640
paced the plane for a while the f-18 and

1139
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:34,160
then just took off straight up so if we

1140
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:35,760
had that video

1141
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,760
if we have that video and we also have

1142
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:39,440
the pilots and the wizzos you know that

1143
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,520
would be really important um i don't

1144
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,440
know like somebody said to me today that

1145
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,520
no matter what they're gonna be some

1146
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:47,280
people that just will not believe it no

1147
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,960
matter what 100

1148
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,119
i mean 100 it doesn't really matter what

1149
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:53,680
you show them at a certain level it just

1150
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,160
it's too much for people to to bear it's

1151
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:58,160
too much shift uh so there's going to be

1152
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:59,520
a small percentage of people who just

1153
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:01,920
choose to ignore it that's my opinion um

1154
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:03,920
and then there's people right now who

1155
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:06,079
we're seeing like they're just throwing

1156
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:08,240
up like a spook to everybody they think

1157
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:10,079
everybody's lying to create this weird

1158
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:12,079
narrative um i think a lot of people

1159
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:13,599
haven't really experienced something

1160
00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:15,200
themselves whether it be a sighting or

1161
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:17,839
just a weird you know anomalous event or

1162
00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:19,119
some type of thing that you can identify

1163
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,920
as the phenomena and i i i don't know uh

1164
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:23,760
there's a lot of uh

1165
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:26,640
um doubt and speculation going on there

1166
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,720
and it's being cast across a really wide

1167
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:30,960
net um and it just seems like a strong

1168
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,960
shade on on a lot of the progress that's

1169
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:34,720
been made and i wonder like as like you

1170
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,880
know like the skinwalker ranch and uh

1171
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:38,880
ryan graves and these witnesses that are

1172
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:41,040
coming out saying this stuff it'll be

1173
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:42,480
really nice to have something to back

1174
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:43,440
that up

1175
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:46,240
ryan graves i cannot believe

1176
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,839
people are questioning ryan griggs who

1177
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:49,359
has come out and said you know in 60

1178
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:50,640
minutes do you think it could be a

1179
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:52,560
foreign adversary he goes i don't see

1180
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,800
why not and then he shares a story about

1181
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:56,480
his you know his friend who had the cube

1182
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:58,640
within a spear pace the plane and go

1183
00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:00,079
straight up and people are insinuating

1184
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:02,000
that he's lying what are you kidding me

1185
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:04,000
are you that bad a judge of character to

1186
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,400
say that ryan graves is lying i mean

1187
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:08,400
it's ridiculous i mean

1188
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:11,520
it doesn't it doesn't fit it doesn't fit

1189
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:13,119
it doesn't fit ryan graves yeah it seems

1190
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,720
like he's completely telling the truth

1191
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:16,400
um along with a bunch of other official

1192
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:17,920
pilots and stuff but i you know it's

1193
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:19,920
weird how everybody has an equal voice

1194
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,800
in uh in it so people who know what

1195
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:24,079
they're talking about have the same

1196
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,680
voices people who are just throwing like

1197
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,599
hey don't trust that person don't trust

1198
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:29,520
this person um and not giving us any

1199
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:31,839
real real other option to kind of go for

1200
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:33,760
so it's interesting

1201
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:35,200
but john i really appreciate you doing

1202
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:37,599
this doing this uh this this live thing

1203
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:39,359
and really breaking this stuff down for

1204
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:40,880
us because i read through it i got to be

1205
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,800
honest and it was a little a little step

1206
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:44,160
i tried to even read it on this on one

1207
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:47,520
of my spaces i was like yeah i know

1208
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:49,280
but it's important it's important to get

1209
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,240
through i i i put those two points to

1210
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:54,319
somebody i trust i said so basically

1211
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:56,079
these folks can come forward out

1212
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:58,880
retribution and if a program is not on

1213
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:01,520
the record it's not covered by the old

1214
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:03,760
national national security coverage and

1215
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:06,079
they're like yep that's it so those two

1216
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:07,680
basic things those programs are not

1217
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,640
covered um and if they exist we should

1218
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,480
find out about them at some point when i

1219
00:46:17,349 --> 00:46:14,960
don't know but yeah sam thank you very

1220
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:17,359
much um other folks i see this two

1221
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,960
people here but it says device not

1222
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,920
connected so i don't know if you're

1223
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:21,839
using the wrong browser you need to use

1224
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:23,760
i know chrome works for this

1225
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:26,319
oh yeah chrome chrome solid

1226
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:28,079
chrome works i don't know about other

1227
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:30,079
other um

1228
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,680
other

1229
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:33,599
browsers but and and i will do one of

1230
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:36,400
your i will do one of your uh

1231
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:38,640
spaces soon sam oh awesome yeah i'll

1232
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:40,000
keep sending you invites i do them

1233
00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:41,280
sometimes they're casual sometimes

1234
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:43,119
they're pointed at like certain subjects

1235
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:44,880
or whatever but uh they're always fun

1236
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:46,880
and you know it's a it's a good space to

1237
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:48,400
come by and hear people talk about their

1238
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:50,800
experiences too um and we try to keep it

1239
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:52,000
organized so people aren't really

1240
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:53,280
yelling at each other so it's pretty

1241
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,480
good

1242
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:56,000
thanks yeah i'll definitely i'll look

1243
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:57,119
forward to that and i'm going to join

1244
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:58,400
i'm going to add somebody and i will

1245
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:00,319
talk to you soon yeah until next time

1246
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:06,390
salon are you there

1247
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:08,960
yeah hey joe how you doing good how are

1248
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:10,880
you uh i'm good i just have two

1249
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,040
questions so with this nda obviously

1250
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,520
my assumption is the dod is trying to

1251
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:19,440
try to kill this right right because if

1252
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:20,960
this goes through

1253
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:21,760
then

1254
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:23,839
it's like a hands-off situation where

1255
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:26,400
the end the dod is screwed right they're

1256
00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:28,160
gonna get the gun they're gone they're

1257
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:30,319
gonna get the gun uh like

1258
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:32,240
uh what's it called like uh

1259
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:35,520
aimed at them right so my belief is nasa

1260
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:37,680
already knew that you know that the dod

1261
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:39,760
is screwed and this is eventually going

1262
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,119
to come out

1263
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,920
so that's why they jumped [\h__\h] right for

1264
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:44,960
all these years they've been saying

1265
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:46,079
there's nothing here there's nothing

1266
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:47,760
here and then out of the blue they're

1267
00:47:50,829 --> 00:47:48,800
like hey we're going to start

1268
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:50,839
investigating uap that's just not a

1269
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,880
coincidence i believe that they know

1270
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,960
they already know like what's going on

1271
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:56,880
but they know right we don't want the

1272
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,520
gun to be on us because if they if they

1273
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:01,520
find out because of nasa has been you

1274
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:03,200
know lying to them

1275
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:06,160
then the pr is going to look so bad that

1276
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:07,680
uh

1277
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,880
their funding

1278
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:12,400
do you have like

1279
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:14,079
go ahead sorry well i think a lot of

1280
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:15,839
people are gonna be caught or i don't

1281
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:17,839
know about people organizations

1282
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:21,760
and people are gonna be caught lying um

1283
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:23,520
watch whatever you have there

1284
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:25,599
um is rubbing just be careful with

1285
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:27,440
what's rubbing something

1286
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:33,589
um let me say about um oh yeah so yeah

1287
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:34,720
people right away are like there's no

1288
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:36,079
way this is gonna pass and there are

1289
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:38,079
other people saying that

1290
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:40,400
whatever these programs are whatever

1291
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:42,400
they have they're gonna either destroy

1292
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:45,200
it or hide it now i i did ask somebody a

1293
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:46,720
couple of weeks ago maybe a month ago i

1294
00:48:49,829 --> 00:48:48,000
said you think they're going to destroy

1295
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,839
this stuff and they said and destroy no

1296
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,079
hide is possibility move it is a

1297
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,000
possibility so

1298
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,920
hopefully you know i don't know who

1299
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:58,079
somebody came out to today i forgot who

1300
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:59,440
said it and they said

1301
00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:00,480
you know

1302
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,160
we don't know where this stuff is and

1303
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:04,640
i'm like lucidi would know exactly where

1304
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:06,960
to look i'm pretty sure there are other

1305
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,079
people

1306
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:10,240
who know where to look don't don't

1307
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:11,760
believe that we don't know where to look

1308
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:13,760
i am very confident we know where to

1309
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:15,839
look now whether or not they move stuff

1310
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:17,920
i don't know how they would do that well

1311
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:19,359
i would think if they know where to look

1312
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,119
they will pay attention and keep a close

1313
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:23,440
eye on those locations to make sure they

1314
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:24,640
don't move it

1315
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:27,839
well this language isn't for us it's

1316
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:30,160
mainly for the hearings for lou and

1317
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:31,599
melon to come

1318
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:32,880
forward because they know where the

1319
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,359
bodies are hidden right they are the two

1320
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:36,960
people that are most important to this

1321
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,640
thing for the other people to come

1322
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:40,319
forward and eventually if enough people

1323
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,760
come forward then the deodo is going to

1324
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:43,599
have to crack because the pressure is

1325
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,319
just going to be so enormous that they

1326
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:48,480
you know they have to

1327
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,280
um but what do you think about

1328
00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:54,240
uh another hearing before this nda

1329
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:55,280
passes

1330
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:56,960
i think another hearing is coming i just

1331
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,280
don't know when i have not heard

1332
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,960
i've heard another hearing is coming but

1333
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:02,640
i have not been given a date on whether

1334
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:04,720
or not it's going to be before this or

1335
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,839
after

1336
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:07,280
so people just need to be patient i know

1337
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:08,480
there are people out there saying it's

1338
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:09,920
going to happen in a week or two weeks

1339
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:10,640
no

1340
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,319
this is going to be a hearing

1341
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:16,160
aren't we sorry sir aren't we supposed

1342
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:20,240
to get uh unclassified report in august

1343
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:21,599
yeah and i don't know the date if that

1344
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:24,240
if that's the date yes um

1345
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,119
is that in the nda from 2022 i think so

1346
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:29,200
yeah we're supposed to i haven't heard

1347
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,400
anything like uh any news about that but

1348
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:34,480
if it's in the nda we should and it's

1349
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:36,319
probably going to be nothing because the

1350
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:39,280
aim sogg has been completely incompetent

1351
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:41,680
um but uh

1352
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:44,000
thank goodness

1353
00:50:47,109 --> 00:50:45,520
yeah they come up with another uh

1354
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,119
another way of doing things which is

1355
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:49,440
going to take time of course

1356
00:50:53,829 --> 00:50:51,839
but i think i think this time especially

1357
00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:53,839
with uh this time i think they're gonna

1358
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:55,760
they're gonna finally nail these uh you

1359
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:57,760
know suckers

1360
00:51:01,510 --> 00:50:59,839
yeah i i hope so so on and thank you for

1361
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:01,520
for calling in i'm gonna switch over to

1362
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:03,520
joe c and thank you for being part of

1363
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:05,040
the show yeah thank you have a nice

1364
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,069
what's up joe

1365
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,640
ah fellow joe always uh

1366
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,640
good how about yourself i'm doing good

1367
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:16,319
i'm it's been a really good day when

1368
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:18,559
this language came out of the blue

1369
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:19,680
i uh

1370
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:22,240
i agree but i guess in some respects i

1371
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:24,079
mean there are rumors that this type of

1372
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:25,359
thing was

1373
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:28,319
being worked on by congress uh for a

1374
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,319
while now so it it was definitely good

1375
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,400
news uh very encouraging to see that it

1376
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:34,480
came out today i was pleasantly

1377
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:36,800
surprised as well um

1378
00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:38,960
i'm still just trying to understand like

1379
00:51:41,589 --> 00:51:40,480
maybe what

1380
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:41,599
what all

1381
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:43,760
possible ends are that are going to come

1382
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:45,359
out of this and i guess maybe we

1383
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:47,359
shouldn't be putting the

1384
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:49,520
cart before the horse either because

1385
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:51,680
obviously this isn't past legislation

1386
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:54,800
and even once it is there has to pass

1387
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:57,440
the senate too but um

1388
00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:59,520
for that point i guess i will just throw

1389
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:00,400
out there

1390
00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:03,040
um i know that i saw that

1391
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:06,319
there was a person on ufo twitter uh

1392
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:08,720
katie howland i think was advocating for

1393
00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:10,480
contacting reps

1394
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:11,839
yeah honestly

1395
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,640
specific day yes yeah so i i don't know

1396
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:15,920
i'd probably just throw out there it

1397
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:18,079
might not be a bad idea to encourage

1398
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:21,200
some support towards that amendment but

1399
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:23,040
i guess actual question i wanted to ask

1400
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:24,480
you

1401
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:28,720
little bit

1402
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:29,599
but

1403
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:31,520
there had been a number of individuals

1404
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,520
that commented on this last year before

1405
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:35,680
the 2021 report came out they were

1406
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:37,040
talking about some sort of impending

1407
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:38,240
disclosure

1408
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:39,280
and yet

1409
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:41,680
that fell through

1410
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:43,839
do you have any like speculation on

1411
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,400
maybe why that did and and

1412
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:48,640
do you think that an effort like this

1413
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,520
was was maybe more needed as to why that

1414
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,680
that fell through because the the powers

1415
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:55,599
that were involved didn't want to play

1416
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,119
ball and so now they're going to be

1417
00:53:02,549 --> 00:52:59,359
compelled to from legislation

1418
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,559
who was saying that because i never

1419
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:04,319
from the people i talked to i never got

1420
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:06,319
that it's always been you need to be

1421
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:07,839
patient it's going to take time it's

1422
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:09,680
always that and then do you remember who

1423
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,119
was saying that it's just people in the

1424
00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:13,040
community were there it was it was

1425
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:15,440
actually people outside like um

1426
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:17,599
sam harris talked about how there was

1427
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:19,760
going to be right information now he

1428
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:21,200
didn't give a specific date but it made

1429
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:22,800
it seem like it was

1430
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:25,280
right close to term so

1431
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:27,680
yeah and then and then eric weinstein

1432
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,800
said

1433
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,480
he was in that same situation they

1434
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:32,480
promised information or some sort of

1435
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:33,599
reveal

1436
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:35,119
and it didn't happen and i have not

1437
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:37,119
heard sam harris comment on it i'm

1438
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:38,559
assuming the same thing happened with

1439
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:41,520
him why that happened

1440
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:43,520
i don't know and that's and when i saw

1441
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:45,440
that something clicked in my head with

1442
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:46,960
with the old

1443
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,960
kit green having that happen to him and

1444
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:50,160
you know bringing him to the edge say

1445
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:51,440
here you go we're going to show you the

1446
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:53,200
best of the best and then

1447
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:55,440
sorry we're not go home

1448
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:01,430
i mean like i'm very when i mentioned

1449
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:04,480
psyop i've hammered on

1450
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:07,040
people talking about that but i i do i i

1451
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:09,280
leave a little bit open i just to me it

1452
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,640
makes no sense whatsoever i don't see

1453
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:12,240
the end game of what that is people are

1454
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:13,520
like well it's related to the black

1455
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:15,440
technology we've cracked gravity i'm

1456
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,119
like yeah but why do you need to do a

1457
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,359
psyop for that many years

1458
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:21,119
i don't get it why they would need to do

1459
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:22,960
that so

1460
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:24,720
why we didn't i don't think we ever were

1461
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:26,559
gonna get disclosure i don't those folks

1462
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:28,240
and i don't think anything was coming

1463
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:29,599
imminent where it's like here you go

1464
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:31,839
here's everything um

1465
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,599
and i don't know who was telling them

1466
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:35,040
that i don't know who was talking to sam

1467
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:37,359
harris who eric was speaking to

1468
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:38,720
that would help if we knew who those

1469
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:39,920
folks were

1470
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,720
um

1471
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:42,000
i mean there are people out there there

1472
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:43,440
are folks out there who don't want this

1473
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:44,960
maybe they were putting out you know

1474
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:48,079
misinformation to make to make everybody

1475
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:49,920
look bad when it didn't happen i don't

1476
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:51,440
know um

1477
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:53,200
so i i just people need to be patient

1478
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:54,880
this this language isn't gonna happen

1479
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:57,599
enacted till next year i mean

1480
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:59,680
or yeah next year when it gets hopefully

1481
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,960
gets signed and hopefully it makes it

1482
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:02,400
through and like you said

1483
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:04,160
if it makes it through it's a huge deal

1484
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:06,880
so it's a it's a first step

1485
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:09,359
of many steps it's just amazing i never

1486
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:12,640
thought before 2017 we'd even be talking

1487
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:13,760
about this

1488
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:14,720
the fact that we're having the

1489
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,920
conversation is is amazing to me

1490
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,680
hopefully it goes through

1491
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:21,599
well the other thing too to keep in mind

1492
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:23,920
is the language itself doesn't require

1493
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,520
any sort of public disclosure of

1494
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:27,520
information it just provides a secret

1495
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:29,040
repository

1496
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:29,920
for

1497
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:33,520
they were aware of due to their

1498
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:35,680
activities under their ndas

1499
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:38,480
and also provides for congress to be

1500
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:40,799
compelled to

1501
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:42,160
provides

1502
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:44,799
compulsion for individuals in the dod

1503
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:46,799
and in intelligence services to provide

1504
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:49,440
information to congress relating to what

1505
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:51,920
nda's there exist on the uh

1506
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:54,319
in general so

1507
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,799
i think it's a long road um

1508
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,000
but

1509
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:00,240
it is interesting to me because you know

1510
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:03,839
like hypothetically let's say and have

1511
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:05,200
no proof of this right but like

1512
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,400
hypothetically let's say there have been

1513
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,799
crash retrievals and there have been

1514
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:12,720
secret reverse engineering programs

1515
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:14,000
going through

1516
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:16,880
um you know uh une waived unacknowledged

1517
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:20,400
special access programs for years

1518
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:22,400
what what is interesting about that is

1519
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:24,160
you would think

1520
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:26,079
ultimately there is there would have

1521
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:28,079
been some

1522
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,520
prior plan now and and this this is an

1523
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:33,200
important point i think there would have

1524
00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:35,119
been some sort of prior plan on how they

1525
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:36,799
would want to eventually because

1526
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:37,839
obviously the cat's going to come out of

1527
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:40,160
the bag one day reveal that information

1528
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,119
to

1529
00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:43,440
the general populace or or at least

1530
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:46,240
pieces of it right so what's interesting

1531
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:47,200
is

1532
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:51,440
we're getting

1533
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:52,640
and

1534
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:55,280
why that is i i don't have an answer but

1535
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,720
it's it's almost like this is like some

1536
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:58,400
sort of organic movement

1537
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,839
from people that had some sort of

1538
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:01,680
exposure to it trying to get the

1539
00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:03,440
information out rather than the actual

1540
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:05,839
secret holders deciding that it was time

1541
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:07,520
to go through with whatever plan they

1542
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:08,559
had to

1543
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:09,839
actually expose the information at least

1544
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:11,760
that's how it appears to me but that's

1545
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:14,559
total conjecture

1546
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:16,319
yeah um and i'm sorry if i missed some

1547
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:18,079
of that my dog was going crazy i had to

1548
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:20,079
mute it um

1549
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:22,559
you would think

1550
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:23,760
i don't know

1551
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:25,520
it seems like they're not really

1552
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:28,640
prepared with any plan it seems like

1553
00:57:32,069 --> 00:57:30,319
most of the government doesn't realize

1554
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:32,079
this is real yet most of the populist

1555
00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:34,240
doesn't realize this is real yet so

1556
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,319
i don't know if they're banking on and

1557
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:38,160
and correct me if i'm missing your point

1558
00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:41,200
because i was distracted by the dog um

1559
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:43,280
i don't know if they're

1560
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:44,799
banking on the fact that people really

1561
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,480
haven't reacted what's come out yet i

1562
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:48,160
hope not because you know lou's like

1563
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:50,000
well we've had disclosure and religions

1564
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:51,839
haven't crumbled you know people haven't

1565
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:54,559
run in the streets i'm like people don't

1566
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:56,160
realize this is real yet the masses

1567
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:57,520
don't realize it's real and they don't

1568
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,960
even know what it is depending on what

1569
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,040
this is once it does hit i think it's

1570
00:58:05,589 --> 00:58:03,680
gonna be a different reaction how people

1571
00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:05,599
will react i don't know um there are

1572
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:07,760
people think that they'll be all excited

1573
00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:09,359
for a week 10 days and then everybody

1574
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:10,880
will go back to their lives like nothing

1575
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:13,680
happened uh i don't know it depends it

1576
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:16,640
depends on what the real story is and so

1577
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:18,240
yeah tell me if i missed what your point

1578
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:20,799
was uh you were along the lines i guess

1579
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,880
my point was exactly what you were

1580
00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:24,960
saying and that it doesn't appear that

1581
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:26,480
this is like a coordinated effort

1582
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:28,000
necessarily it seems like it's a

1583
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:30,160
different group and and my point was

1584
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:31,839
assuming there was special access

1585
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:33,440
programs you would think that they would

1586
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:35,280
have had some sort of plan to eventually

1587
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:37,520
release some information to the populace

1588
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:40,160
aft when it was appropriate to do so or

1589
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,000
the cat couldn't possibly be kept in the

1590
00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:44,079
bag anymore so it's really interesting

1591
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,440
to see that

1592
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:47,440
that isn't happening it's almost as if

1593
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:49,359
the people that are holding the secrets

1594
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:51,119
if these in doom indeed exist then

1595
00:58:55,109 --> 00:58:53,119
they're they're really trying their best

1596
00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:55,119
to continue to hold on to that secret

1597
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,520
and exactly what would be an interesting

1598
00:59:02,309 --> 00:58:59,680
another interesting point right like if

1599
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:02,319
but if if you read um if you read kit

1600
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:05,760
greens the alien autopsy email from 2001

1601
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:07,839
or 2000 he talks about those folks and

1602
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:10,640
he said they do not think that human

1603
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:12,640
beings

1604
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:14,319
deserve this information they're more

1605
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:16,240
worried about who wins the game on

1606
00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:17,920
sunday and all that stuff this was back

1607
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:20,799
in 2000 and they just don't think people

1608
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:22,240
can handle the truth they don't think

1609
00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:25,200
people deserve the truth um so that was

1610
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:27,440
that was him saying that which would not

1611
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:29,760
surprise me i mean obviously

1612
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:31,520
look at society today look at look at

1613
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:34,000
what gets the most attention you know

1614
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:35,440
the the hearing

1615
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:38,319
had a paltry amount of viewers meanwhile

1616
00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:40,400
johnny depp and amber heard millions and

1617
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:42,079
millions of people so i really can't

1618
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:44,000
argue with them

1619
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:45,920
um and they're gonna hold on that's

1620
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:47,359
exactly what i think they're gonna hold

1621
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:49,280
on they think they can hold on and fight

1622
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:50,640
this off let's it's really gonna be

1623
00:59:55,589 --> 00:59:52,960
interesting to see if this ndaa language

1624
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:55,599
makes it in because once it does

1625
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:56,720
those folks i don't know what they're

1626
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:57,920
gonna do i mean

1627
01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:59,040
they're gonna be

1628
01:00:01,990 --> 01:00:00,240
running for the hills or they're going

1629
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:02,000
to be pulling out all stops i don't know

1630
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:03,359
what else they can do and you know

1631
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:04,559
people are like oh they'll do a fake

1632
01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:06,000
alien invasion i don't think that's

1633
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:08,079
happening um but

1634
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:09,200
yeah it's going to be an interesting

1635
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:11,200
next year to see how they handle it and

1636
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:12,960
please if there's if they know where

1637
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:15,200
this stuff is please have everybody keep

1638
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:17,280
an eye on that obviously they know that

1639
01:00:20,710 --> 01:00:19,200
right they know keep an eye on the

1640
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:20,720
locations where you think this stuff is

1641
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:22,720
so they can't move it well that brings

1642
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:24,240
up another point about that what about

1643
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:26,640
the crater agreement that tom delong's

1644
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:28,799
ttsa has with the army i mean he has

1645
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:32,000
some material that is anomalous at the

1646
01:00:35,349 --> 01:00:33,920
very least right that is under that

1647
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:35,359
crate agreement

1648
01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:36,400
obviously

1649
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,240
allegedly right yeah but i mean the us

1650
01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:40,559
army released the crada agreement on it

1651
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:41,760
it's

1652
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:44,160
otherwise

1653
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:45,760
the creative agreement's wording would

1654
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:46,799
have been

1655
01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:49,040
disingenuous i think the army thinks

1656
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:51,040
it's worth looking into and it costs

1657
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:52,960
them nothing to look into except their

1658
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:55,520
own science their own scientists and and

1659
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:57,040
equipment because people are all like

1660
01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:57,839
look

1661
01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:00,720
to the stars is getting 750 000 i'm like

1662
01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:02,000
no that's not what they're getting it's

1663
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:04,160
just representation of how much money it

1664
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:06,079
would cost to use those scientists in

1665
01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:07,680
the army and their equipment they're not

1666
01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:09,440
they're not getting any money it's no

1667
01:01:13,510 --> 01:01:11,599
money's exchanged exchanging hands but

1668
01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:13,520
like at the time i was like all right

1669
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:15,440
this is fine they don't have the money

1670
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:17,599
to do it themselves but

1671
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:20,480
if let's say one of those pieces of arts

1672
01:01:25,270 --> 01:01:22,720
parts you know the bismuth magnesium

1673
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,280
let's say they they beam

1674
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:27,359
the right amount of terahertz energy at

1675
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:28,960
it and it starts to levitate do they

1676
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:30,880
really think do we any really body think

1677
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:31,920
that they're going to let that out to

1678
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:34,240
the public i don't i know it says both

1679
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:35,839
both sides get the results i just don't

1680
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:38,000
believe that

1681
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:39,520
well there's

1682
01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:40,960
there's usually deals and there's back

1683
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,960
deals right awesome right

1684
01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:44,480
yeah so let me take some questions joe

1685
01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:46,079
thank you for calling

1686
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:53,829
i will look at questions and you guys

1687
01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:55,119
feel free

1688
01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:56,079
to

1689
01:02:02,470 --> 01:01:57,680
i'll give out the link one more time i

1690
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:09,270
but it's nice to have callers in

1691
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,510
any questions

1692
01:02:19,430 --> 01:02:16,710
yep good night john

1693
01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:19,440
i am well grounded sometimes i'm too

1694
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:23,119
grounded i get stuck to the ground um

1695
01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:25,039
yeah i was trying to get mark i was

1696
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:26,880
trying to get michael by on tonight but

1697
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:28,720
he has a very early day tomorrow you

1698
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:32,319
want you want to hear a smart guy my god

1699
01:02:36,710 --> 01:02:34,400
um he knows so much stuff about the

1700
01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:36,720
phenomenon the history everything

1701
01:02:39,349 --> 01:02:37,680
um

1702
01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:39,359
he also believes we've cracked gravity

1703
01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:41,440
which a lot of people are

1704
01:02:45,750 --> 01:02:43,520
don't agree with them on by the way

1705
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:45,760
there is somebody here

1706
01:02:49,109 --> 01:02:47,280
they're using the wrong i think you're

1707
01:02:55,750 --> 01:02:49,119
using the wrong browser i cannot bring

1708
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,789
twitter

1709
01:02:58,799 --> 01:03:32,390
hold on guys

1710
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:35,029
it's in the chat tom the link i've sent

1711
01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:36,880
it a lot of times it would be great if

1712
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:38,160
you can join

1713
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:41,440
there's gabby we got gabby from mexico

1714
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:43,680
gabby how are you

1715
01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:46,720
hey can you hear me oh i can hear you

1716
01:03:51,270 --> 01:03:49,119
hey what's up i'm glad i'm in my house

1717
01:03:53,589 --> 01:03:51,280
in mexico city i'm glad to be able to

1718
01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:53,599
say hello to you brother i'm glad yeah

1719
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:56,720
i'm glad you called in um

1720
01:04:01,349 --> 01:03:59,440
what are you thinking hey well what i

1721
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:01,359
was actually going to talk about wanted

1722
01:04:05,270 --> 01:04:03,440
to talk about with you is like um i

1723
01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:05,280
don't know if you have heard

1724
01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:07,839
or have uh read about like other you

1725
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:08,960
know

1726
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,680
ufo podcasters investigators the

1727
01:04:17,349 --> 01:04:13,839
reactions after

1728
01:04:19,829 --> 01:04:17,359
these hearings because i've been noting

1729
01:04:22,549 --> 01:04:19,839
and noticing that some of them have

1730
01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:22,559
taken extreme postures

1731
01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:24,880
about this you know like for example

1732
01:04:28,630 --> 01:04:26,400
here in mexico

1733
01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:28,640
jaime moussan you know this guy

1734
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:30,720
he's been

1735
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:32,720
you know making a lot of superlatives

1736
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:33,680
like

1737
01:04:38,789 --> 01:04:35,760
finally the us is accepting the

1738
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:38,799
phenomenon this is real stuff like that

1739
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:41,359
but who i wanted to ask to you about is

1740
01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:42,960
linda moulton howie i don't know if you

1741
01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:45,920
have been watching her podcast recently

1742
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:47,599
i have not

1743
01:04:52,710 --> 01:04:50,240
well she's been like even like

1744
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:52,720
since the first week after the hearings

1745
01:04:57,829 --> 01:04:55,440
she's been like making all these uh very

1746
01:05:00,789 --> 01:04:57,839
incredible claims is the only way i can

1747
01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:00,799
describe them but she's been like uh you

1748
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:03,839
know supposedly releasing documents she

1749
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:06,160
has but like these are like majestic 12

1750
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:10,160
type documents like you know very uh

1751
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:12,400
hard to confirm as real

1752
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:14,720
but in one of the episodes she talked

1753
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,680
about um

1754
01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:19,359
i i know this is gonna sound ridiculous

1755
01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:20,960
joe but you know this is the type of

1756
01:05:25,349 --> 01:05:22,880
topics i like to talk about with you

1757
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:25,359
because i know you have also

1758
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:27,680
taken a walk into the strangest site of

1759
01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:30,400
the ufo phenomenon if you will

1760
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:32,720
but she talked about like an apparent

1761
01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:35,760
like uh interstellar type of ships

1762
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:38,240
american ships and she even gave the

1763
01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:40,240
names of the ships i wanted to know if

1764
01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:42,640
you have heard about this like the names

1765
01:05:48,829 --> 01:05:45,359
of the ships she gave were where

1766
01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:48,839
the uss kurtis the may the uss hoyt

1767
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,480
vandenberg and the uss roscoe healing

1768
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:54,480
coder kid encounter i don't know how to

1769
01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:56,079
pronounce the joke have you heard

1770
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:57,680
anything about this

1771
01:06:03,510 --> 01:05:59,760
no i have not heard about it and the

1772
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:05,349
you know will miller who's part of the

1773
01:06:09,029 --> 01:06:07,520
wilson davis documents who i met who i'm

1774
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,039
friends with i haven't spoken to him in

1775
01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:11,359
a couple of years um

1776
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:13,520
he in my interview said he believes that

1777
01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:15,280
we have craft that can go anywhere

1778
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:17,280
anytime in the universe so travel in

1779
01:06:20,630 --> 01:06:18,400
time so

1780
01:06:22,549 --> 01:06:20,640
will's not just some guy

1781
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:22,559
with i could see you tom i'll bring you

1782
01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:24,640
in in a little bit will's just not some

1783
01:06:28,630 --> 01:06:26,559
guy will's very smart guy who briefed

1784
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:28,640
people on his own time in the pentagon

1785
01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:30,880
in the government um

1786
01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:33,599
he's the one that briefed admiral wilson

1787
01:06:37,829 --> 01:06:35,119
didn't really need steven greer to be

1788
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:37,839
there but greer was there um so

1789
01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:39,200
but there are there are people when they

1790
01:06:41,829 --> 01:06:40,640
say that they're like no way there's

1791
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:41,839
somebody i spoke to the other day in the

1792
01:06:46,069 --> 01:06:44,240
phone um works in the government like no

1793
01:06:47,430 --> 01:06:46,079
way we don't have this technology this

1794
01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:47,440
is no way i know how government works

1795
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:49,200
and we don't have it i'm like okay

1796
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:50,799
um there are people like michael bai who

1797
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:52,480
i've interviewed who believe we do there

1798
01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:53,839
are people like will miller who believe

1799
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:56,000
we do so i don't close the door on that

1800
01:06:59,190 --> 01:06:57,760
but yeah i mean

1801
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:59,200
what does she present as evidence

1802
01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:00,559
documents documents

1803
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:02,720
documents i suck at documents number one

1804
01:07:06,309 --> 01:07:04,480
i can't authenticate documents that's

1805
01:07:08,230 --> 01:07:06,319
not my thing um

1806
01:07:10,390 --> 01:07:08,240
so yeah it's interesting so you say okay

1807
01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:10,400
linda that's interesting but unless we

1808
01:07:13,990 --> 01:07:11,920
have evidence it really doesn't amount

1809
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:14,000
to much and even with will but will

1810
01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:15,680
miller has a reputation i mean leslie

1811
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:17,200
keane in her book called him a true

1812
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:18,559
insider

1813
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:20,880
brilliant guy he's had you know he's had

1814
01:07:23,829 --> 01:07:22,400
access if you read the wilson davis

1815
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:23,839
notes his letter is in there trying to

1816
01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:25,680
give eric davis and help put up access

1817
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:27,440
to information related

1818
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:29,440
to crash retrievals um

1819
01:07:34,470 --> 01:07:31,920
and alien reproduction vehicles so we've

1820
01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:34,480
been back engineering stuff allegedly

1821
01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:36,079
so i don't know gabby i mean i'm stuck

1822
01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:37,119
in the middle because you have smart

1823
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:38,799
people on both sides

1824
01:07:41,589 --> 01:07:40,240
most people say we have not cracked

1825
01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:41,599
gravity there are other people behind

1826
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:43,760
the scenes who are hinting that we have

1827
01:07:48,069 --> 01:07:46,400
um so yeah i don't know

1828
01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:48,079
yeah it's uh

1829
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:50,319
it's very hard to sometimes take linda

1830
01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:52,960
seriously because for example

1831
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:55,119
in the last episode she was like uh

1832
01:08:00,630 --> 01:07:57,200
showing like a reddit

1833
01:08:02,630 --> 01:08:00,640
or like a fortune screen capture and

1834
01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:02,640
she thought it was like you know like

1835
01:08:06,630 --> 01:08:05,359
some hacked email or some like super

1836
01:08:09,029 --> 01:08:06,640
secret

1837
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:09,039
information and it came across very bad

1838
01:08:13,829 --> 01:08:12,000
and uh before i i finished yo joe with

1839
01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:13,839
you actually if i can have one more

1840
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:16,400
minute with you yeah go ahead i i just

1841
01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:18,799
want to recommend you like uh

1842
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:21,920
to investigate or to to follow this saga

1843
01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:24,400
that's been happening in spain and in

1844
01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:25,520
europe

1845
01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:28,480
i don't know if you know about these uh

1846
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,159
what's the name that

1847
01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:32,080
i getting

1848
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,080
or something like that uh movement like

1849
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:36,960
uh i have not sent it to me

1850
01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:38,960
yeah it's like this guy the exopolitics

1851
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:42,719
guy michael salah you know these guys

1852
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:45,440
i do know michael not a fan

1853
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:47,199
no i know that's why i'm telling you

1854
01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:48,400
like um

1855
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:50,000
apparently like there's like a bunch of

1856
01:08:55,349 --> 01:08:52,719
people that you know supposedly get like

1857
01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:55,359
chat messages from extraterrestrials and

1858
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:57,279
some girls that were on this like type

1859
01:09:02,709 --> 01:09:00,159
of coach called they just found out it

1860
01:09:03,749 --> 01:09:02,719
was kind of like a big operation with

1861
01:09:05,669 --> 01:09:03,759
many

1862
01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:05,679
supposed contact is involved like

1863
01:09:10,309 --> 01:09:07,279
getting fooled

1864
01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:10,319
and they did a video it's in spanish uh

1865
01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:12,000
but it's very interesting about the

1866
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:14,799
methodology they use to fool people and

1867
01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:15,600
they

1868
01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:16,560
uh

1869
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:19,199
are on the belief that there may be some

1870
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:22,239
russian propaganda behind all of it it's

1871
01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:23,759
very interesting and

1872
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:26,000
uh for american uh you know ufo

1873
01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:27,920
enthusiasts is interesting because these

1874
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:29,920
people behind these uh

1875
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:32,480
i don't know hoax just got a

1876
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:35,839
show in gaia tv and the gaia network so

1877
01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,679
it's kind of like uh something that's

1878
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:39,759
growing like that misinformation this

1879
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:42,000
information yeah guy has another red

1880
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:43,440
flag from me but i'm not saying they

1881
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:45,040
don't have interesting information but

1882
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,640
send it to me on a dm and i'm gonna let

1883
01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:48,480
you go gabby you have one more person to

1884
01:09:52,149 --> 01:09:50,480
bring in thank you good night thank you

1885
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:52,159
for all you do brother thank you yeah

1886
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:53,920
thanks for the interview we did and my

1887
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:56,880
my my interpreter says hello hola

1888
01:10:02,410 --> 01:09:58,400
yeah

1889
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:02,420
have a good night man bye

1890
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:07,750
so i have to wait until the blender

1891
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,590
maybe

1892
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:24,870
okay

1893
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:27,280
that's enough

1894
01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:28,719
yeah we may have cracked gravity it's

1895
01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:30,400
very possible you see how the research

1896
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:31,920
went behind the scenes let me bring tom

1897
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,280
in

1898
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:35,360
there you are tom are you sure that

1899
01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:38,320
wasn't a ufo joe it was not a ufo

1900
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:43,990
tom and i have had discussions that i

1901
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:45,520
would always wish afterwards i'm like

1902
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:47,280
why didn't i record that but now we got

1903
01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:49,679
our chance

1904
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:52,719
well i i'm not real and i'm not real

1905
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:54,880
optimistic about the kind of disclosure

1906
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:57,040
that we need i mean we need

1907
01:11:01,350 --> 01:10:59,199
you know the crash saucers and bodies

1908
01:11:02,229 --> 01:11:01,360
and all that good stuff

1909
01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:02,239
and

1910
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:03,040
if

1911
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:07,040
it secret they've been doing it for a

1912
01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:09,600
long time and and they've been doing it

1913
01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:11,120
for a reason

1914
01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:13,520
and they have some kind of methodology

1915
01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:15,520
of burying it

1916
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:18,080
so that even the inspector generals i

1917
01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:20,560
don't think can do anything about it

1918
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:22,239
because they're the

1919
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:23,920
general accounting office and the

1920
01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:26,000
inspector general

1921
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:28,000
of the air force or of the dod or

1922
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:31,840
whatever i mean they're gonna know

1923
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:33,440
what what is in there or they should

1924
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:35,120
know in there what's in there and

1925
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:37,360
they've either concealed it

1926
01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:39,280
so that the inspector general can't see

1927
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:40,719
it or they've

1928
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:42,880
read them the riot act and convinced

1929
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,719
them that they shouldn't

1930
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:47,280
they shouldn't make any of this public

1931
01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:49,520
and i think the only reason why we are

1932
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:52,840
where we are is because elizondo and

1933
01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:56,320
melon have acted as whistleblowers

1934
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:59,520
and they've gotten the ball rolling but

1935
01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:01,360
i just don't know if even the congress

1936
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:02,960
can get to the bottom of it they would

1937
01:12:08,229 --> 01:12:04,239
have to

1938
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,239
conduct a watergate style investigation

1939
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:10,800
uh you know or this uh this kind of

1940
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:12,480
investigation that occurred in the

1941
01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:13,920
church committee

1942
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:15,600
where they call them all in and make

1943
01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:17,280
them swear on the bible to tell the

1944
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:19,280
truth or else

1945
01:12:23,430 --> 01:12:21,360
and they they have to have the political

1946
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,440
will to get to the bottom of that and

1947
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:25,440
i'm not sure they do

1948
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:26,320
and

1949
01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:30,320
rebuffed what do they do i mean what if

1950
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:32,239
they just say no we're not telling you

1951
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:33,760
what are they gonna do they're gonna

1952
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:35,360
they're gonna just go and break down the

1953
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:37,120
doors of wherever they think this stuff

1954
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:38,800
is lou says i can tell you where it is

1955
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:40,080
and we can go there right now how does

1956
01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:42,000
that work how would that work let's just

1957
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:44,320
say it's at it's at grumman northrup we

1958
01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:46,000
know exactly where it is this is where

1959
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:47,040
you need to go

1960
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:48,880
does our government go in and say we're

1961
01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:51,120
taking control we're taking what how

1962
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:52,719
would that even look legally could they

1963
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:54,159
do that i mean

1964
01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:56,239
well the the problem is there i mean you

1965
01:13:00,550 --> 01:12:58,320
have separation of powers in the

1966
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:00,560
government so the the congress doesn't

1967
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:03,520
have any policing authority they have

1968
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:05,199
i mean they have police that protect

1969
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:07,199
them on the capitol grounds and all that

1970
01:13:12,310 --> 01:13:09,440
but they don't have their own police

1971
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:12,320
force or their own investigative force

1972
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:14,800
like the fbi the only thing they can do

1973
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:16,560
is turn over

1974
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:19,199
a recommendation to the uh department of

1975
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:20,400
justice

1976
01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:22,400
you know and then stick them on them but

1977
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:23,280
they

1978
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:25,040
you know that's that's almost a bridge

1979
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:28,320
too far because they would have to have

1980
01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:30,640
uh they would have to have documented

1981
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:33,280
proof basically or very strong

1982
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:35,280
documented evidence that some law is

1983
01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:36,719
being broken

1984
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:39,199
i mean we speculate about that and it

1985
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:41,520
may very well be the case but having

1986
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:43,600
documented evidence and even proof to

1987
01:13:46,709 --> 01:13:45,679
turn over to the just department you

1988
01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:46,719
know a

1989
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:49,360
referral to the justice department

1990
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:50,480
that's something that they're going to

1991
01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:52,480
have to be able to get

1992
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:55,360
through having the political wit will to

1993
01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:57,040
dig into this thing until they get to

1994
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,480
the bottom of it

1995
01:14:02,310 --> 01:14:00,400
and i i just don't know if they have if

1996
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:02,320
there's a political will there

1997
01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:04,880
yeah they may not be at this point um i

1998
01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:06,960
wonder if enough of the people who were

1999
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,719
in the program say well we're coming

2000
01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:09,840
forward and we're going to talk about

2001
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:12,320
what we saw i wonder if that happens

2002
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:14,000
let's say it's 30 people i wonder if

2003
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:16,080
that would be enough to wake up

2004
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:18,480
the masses to sh to say

2005
01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:19,920
do you hear what they're saying they're

2006
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:21,600
saying they worked on craft they believe

2007
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:23,199
that was not made on this planet and

2008
01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:24,880
it's live hearings

2009
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,719
whether or not we even get that it might

2010
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:28,560
be all behind closed doors which is not

2011
01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:30,400
going to do the trick obviously

2012
01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:31,840
um yeah you bring up bring up a great

2013
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:33,360
point and i'm i'm positive and happy

2014
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:35,440
about today but i realized there's a

2015
01:14:39,189 --> 01:14:37,840
long way to go i realize it's just not

2016
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:39,199
going to happen

2017
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:41,199
and there's so many

2018
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:44,400
so many ways this can fall apart um

2019
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:45,840
yeah i don't know i mean i would love to

2020
01:14:49,430 --> 01:14:46,560
hear

2021
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:49,440
questions to lou and melon exactly about

2022
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:50,880
this what if they just put up a fight

2023
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:52,560
you know what can we do

2024
01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:54,239
the the

2025
01:15:02,310 --> 01:14:55,040
the

2026
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:02,320
health education welfare

2027
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:04,080
energy department they stonewall

2028
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:06,800
congress all the time

2029
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:07,840
you know

2030
01:15:13,830 --> 01:15:11,360
uh congress or in congress or requests

2031
01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:13,840
information from the president's office

2032
01:15:18,229 --> 01:15:15,280
or from

2033
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:18,239
uh you know the executive branches and

2034
01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:20,239
they just stonewall them

2035
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:21,840
and it's like you say what are they

2036
01:15:25,750 --> 01:15:23,520
gonna do about it

2037
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:25,760
and it's not really exactly the point

2038
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:27,679
we're talking about now but recently on

2039
01:15:31,990 --> 01:15:30,560
a facebook page um

2040
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:32,000
i'm sorry this is going off on a tangent

2041
01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:33,760
but it popped into my head

2042
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:35,760
and it's a private facebook page so the

2043
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:37,199
person who runs the page doesn't want us

2044
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:38,960
sharing stuff so somebody a famous

2045
01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:40,880
scientist a well-known scientist talked

2046
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:41,840
about

2047
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:43,600
holland holloman air force base and

2048
01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:44,960
saying how they

2049
01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:48,719
verified the information and um

2050
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:50,640
if we actually and it would be you said

2051
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:52,159
we need to see the bodies we need to see

2052
01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:53,600
the craft allegedly if we have that

2053
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:54,719
stuff

2054
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:56,400
and then this next level up at holloman

2055
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:58,080
it's apparently a craft landed and they

2056
01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:01,040
met with our air force in a meeting so

2057
01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:03,040
just like that i mean

2058
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:04,560
have you done any work on holloman at

2059
01:16:08,709 --> 01:16:06,640
all any opinions on it

2060
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:08,719
well i'm very familiar with the stories

2061
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:10,320
and the rumors

2062
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:11,760
you know and they're they're tell people

2063
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:13,120
the story because some people may not

2064
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:15,600
know what holloman is about

2065
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:18,960
well there's there's a story that

2066
01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:22,239
uh there was some kind of agreement to

2067
01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:23,600
meet with

2068
01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:25,679
some alien group

2069
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:27,600
at holloman air force base now one

2070
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:28,880
version

2071
01:16:34,149 --> 01:16:32,320
is that the saucer lands and then a

2072
01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:34,159
couple of air force colonels come out

2073
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:36,800
and they talk for a few minutes and then

2074
01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:38,640
the aliens fly off

2075
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:40,560
another version is that eisenhower

2076
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:42,080
landed there

2077
01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:43,679
you know and actually went in the craft

2078
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:45,600
for a period of time

2079
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:48,080
uh and it's it's kind of like the second

2080
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:49,920
iteration of the

2081
01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:52,560
the rumor about eisenhower meeting uh

2082
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:56,239
aliens when he was uh in california

2083
01:17:02,229 --> 01:16:59,440
and i i think that was on uh uh

2084
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:02,239
edwards air force base or some vicinity

2085
01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:03,360
there

2086
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:07,280
and now richard doty claims that

2087
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:09,199
he's claimed that

2088
01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:12,400
the socorro landing that you know the

2089
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:14,960
lonnie zamora incident

2090
01:17:19,110 --> 01:17:17,360
was because that was actually going to

2091
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:19,120
be the holloman

2092
01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:21,440
meeting but they had the coordinates

2093
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:23,840
wrong and that's why they landed they

2094
01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:25,679
landed in the wrong place then they took

2095
01:17:27,830 --> 01:17:26,560
off

2096
01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:27,840
and they put the wrong coordinates in

2097
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:29,040
their gps

2098
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:31,120
yeah it's something like that i mean

2099
01:17:35,590 --> 01:17:33,920
it's kind of hard to believe but yeah

2100
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:35,600
but that's enough you know another

2101
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:37,120
version of it and you know a lot about

2102
01:17:41,270 --> 01:17:39,840
dodie um it's funny because people like

2103
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:41,280
people totally ignore dodie but i think

2104
01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:43,520
you've transcribed or you have almost

2105
01:17:50,470 --> 01:17:46,000
all of his lectures

2106
01:17:53,430 --> 01:17:50,480
i've transcribed about

2107
01:17:55,189 --> 01:17:53,440
15 or more of his interviews on youtube

2108
01:17:57,750 --> 01:17:55,199
i haven't transcribed him i've taken

2109
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:57,760
notes okay pretty extensive yeah your

2110
01:18:01,110 --> 01:17:59,520
notes are good what do you think about

2111
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:01,120
dodie i know we've spoken about this

2112
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,159
before

2113
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:04,560
i think he's part of the mix

2114
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:06,239
and uh

2115
01:18:10,070 --> 01:18:08,640
you know until we get a solid

2116
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:10,080
confirmation

2117
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:12,640
you know from some third party

2118
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:14,960
uh we have i think we have to hold a lot

2119
01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:18,159
of his claims in advance

2120
01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:19,840
but i don't take the attitude that he's

2121
01:18:23,189 --> 01:18:21,520
just a liar and that you can't believe

2122
01:18:25,669 --> 01:18:23,199
anything that he says i think that he

2123
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:25,679
does know some things for for one thing

2124
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:28,480
he claims that he was briefed on the

2125
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:32,880
secret program way back in 1979 1980

2126
01:18:37,189 --> 01:18:34,640
in order for him to do his work as an

2127
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:37,199
afosi special agent

2128
01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:39,600
and then also after he left the air

2129
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:40,480
force

2130
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:41,600
um

2131
01:18:47,189 --> 01:18:44,880
he he's been uh meeting with other

2132
01:18:49,750 --> 01:18:47,199
retired intelligence people you know

2133
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:49,760
from afosi and other

2134
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:51,600
other agencies and they've apparently

2135
01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:53,040
told him a lot of things you know that

2136
01:18:58,149 --> 01:18:55,520
he wasn't he didn't find out about when

2137
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:58,159
he was an afosi so he's been sharing a

2138
01:19:01,669 --> 01:18:59,920
lot of that information and i'm i'm not

2139
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:01,679
inclined to just write it all off i

2140
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:03,600
think i think we have to take it into

2141
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:06,159
consideration yeah the people i speak to

2142
01:19:09,910 --> 01:19:08,320
they said do not just write them off

2143
01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:09,920
you'll have some good information mixed

2144
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:12,320
in with bad information so

2145
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:14,000
and i get i've gotten flak i was a

2146
01:19:17,189 --> 01:19:15,600
couple of years ago i was at the the

2147
01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:17,199
mega con and i was speaking with dodie

2148
01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:18,640
and people like oh man what is he

2149
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:20,159
speaking to goatee i'm like give me a

2150
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:21,760
break and george knapp's like yeah it's

2151
01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:23,600
like this uh i forget the wording he

2152
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:25,520
used but yeah he has such a reputation i

2153
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:26,880
understand it because of the bennowitz

2154
01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:29,040
thing and linda molten howe but

2155
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:30,480
there may put that

2156
01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:32,000
put it aside just to see is there

2157
01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:33,679
information there that's valuable and i

2158
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:35,280
think there is probably some information

2159
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:38,080
there the problem is i don't know how to

2160
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:40,000
distinguish which is good information

2161
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,600
which is not good information i mean

2162
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:43,440
that's obviously the problem

2163
01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:45,520
well it's the same thing with linda howe

2164
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:47,920
linda used to have

2165
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:50,560
at least one contact from the defense

2166
01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:53,280
intelligence agency and

2167
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:55,920
maybe other contacts and you know she

2168
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:58,000
she may she's made all kinds of wild

2169
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:00,640
claims based on that and

2170
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,520
some of it may be true so maybe false

2171
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:05,679
all of it may be true all of it may be

2172
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:06,560
false

2173
01:20:10,629 --> 01:20:08,800
but until we're able to get some kind of

2174
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:10,639
confirmation

2175
01:20:15,270 --> 01:20:13,120
uh some way you know i think we just

2176
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:15,280
have to keep an open mind and maybe take

2177
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:17,760
a lot of it with a grain of salt too

2178
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:19,760
you know i've followed him for a while i

2179
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:21,040
mean her crop circle work was

2180
01:20:25,110 --> 01:20:23,520
interesting but you know she's like

2181
01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:25,120
i remember i went to a conference tom

2182
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:26,080
and

2183
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:27,280
it was

2184
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:30,000
colin andrews had said that

2185
01:20:36,070 --> 01:20:33,840
he had sent wc levin good a sample of a

2186
01:20:39,189 --> 01:20:36,080
crop that was man-made and lebanon good

2187
01:20:41,110 --> 01:20:39,199
came back and said that it was anomalous

2188
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:41,120
and i brought it up at a conference and

2189
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:43,199
she was there and colin well colin

2190
01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:45,440
andrews was there and she got so upset

2191
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:47,920
um and her her animal panel mutilation

2192
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:49,280
work is amazing

2193
01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:51,199
you know she was one of the first but

2194
01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:53,040
she just leans too much alien for me i

2195
01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:54,639
think a lot of that is humans crystal

2196
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:56,480
brines does amazing work and i get flack

2197
01:21:00,870 --> 01:20:58,880
for even saying that why would humans do

2198
01:21:03,430 --> 01:21:00,880
that but yeah linda molten howe

2199
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:03,440
appreciate you know she's done so much

2200
01:21:06,390 --> 01:21:04,800
work but

2201
01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:06,400
i don't know if i put her in the dodie

2202
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:09,040
camp only because he admits that he was

2203
01:21:12,149 --> 01:21:11,040
part of this information but yeah her

2204
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:12,159
information

2205
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:13,840
is

2206
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:15,040
questionable

2207
01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:16,880
and i don't want to mean to this

2208
01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:19,199
it's questionable because it's so

2209
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:22,639
it's so some of it is so far-fetched

2210
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:25,120
but but that doesn't mean it isn't true

2211
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:28,400
you know right right yeah yeah we i i

2212
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:30,080
want to treat her with courtesy and

2213
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:31,280
respect

2214
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:33,920
and uh she's a sort she's another source

2215
01:21:37,750 --> 01:21:35,520
of information

2216
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:37,760
and i i see this whole problem as an

2217
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:39,440
intelligence problem

2218
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:41,040
you know we need to gather all the

2219
01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:43,199
information and analyze it and try to

2220
01:21:47,030 --> 01:21:45,199
make sense out of it you know looking at

2221
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:47,040
the whole picture everything that we

2222
01:21:50,629 --> 01:21:48,560
have

2223
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:50,639
no i agree um

2224
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:52,159
how are you feeling overall the last

2225
01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:53,679
four and a half years

2226
01:21:56,950 --> 01:21:55,199
did you ever think we'd even be talking

2227
01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:56,960
about this stuff at this point

2228
01:22:01,350 --> 01:21:58,719
before the new york times article came

2229
01:22:04,470 --> 01:22:02,149
no

2230
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:04,480
and when the new york times article came

2231
01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:07,120
out it was

2232
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:08,480
uh

2233
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:11,120
it it turned out to be a form of

2234
01:22:15,590 --> 01:22:13,360
disclosure in the

2235
01:22:18,950 --> 01:22:15,600
i put two and two together

2236
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:18,960
about bigelow being fina being funded by

2237
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:22,320
the government by reading that article

2238
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:24,960
and that was that was kind of a sea

2239
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:28,400
change in my understanding of what's

2240
01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:31,040
what's been going on and

2241
01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:35,760
uh yes it had it it has been a material

2242
01:22:41,189 --> 01:22:40,159
shift in direction in in the information

2243
01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:41,199
that

2244
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:43,679
uh we're hearing about in the public and

2245
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:45,920
that the congress is is pressing to get

2246
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:47,440
more of

2247
01:22:51,910 --> 01:22:49,760
but like he said joe it it remains to be

2248
01:22:53,750 --> 01:22:51,920
seen you know what how all this is going

2249
01:22:56,070 --> 01:22:53,760
to turn out and and like you said a

2250
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:56,080
thousand things can go wrong

2251
01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:57,760
you know some of these congress people

2252
01:23:02,629 --> 01:23:00,719
may not get reelected oh my god yes you

2253
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:02,639
know a different party comes into power

2254
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:04,480
and the committee

2255
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:06,480
compositions change

2256
01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:08,960
you know the dod stone walls and you

2257
01:23:14,709 --> 01:23:11,199
know maybe in a few years it's

2258
01:23:18,790 --> 01:23:16,790
i hope yeah

2259
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:18,800
i want to be with you as much as anybody

2260
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:21,120
believe me yeah i try to be positive and

2261
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:22,480
people

2262
01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:29,040
let down over and over again so i'm i am

2263
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:31,280
prepared for that but

2264
01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:33,280
at least we're at least talking about it

2265
01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:36,000
um the potential is there and

2266
01:23:38,390 --> 01:23:37,520
next year should be really interesting

2267
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:38,400
um

2268
01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:39,840
and i really would love to hear like i

2269
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:41,920
said what melon and lou think about what

2270
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:43,280
we're talking about how they're gonna

2271
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:45,040
get through that wall

2272
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:46,880
of denial if they just push back and say

2273
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:48,719
we're not giving you the information but

2274
01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:51,199
um i appreciate you coming on tom um

2275
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:53,199
thank you like ten more questions ten

2276
01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:55,360
more minutes of questions and

2277
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:56,800
we'll talk again soon next time you're

2278
01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:58,400
in vegas hit me up this time i will see

2279
01:24:00,790 --> 01:23:59,360
you

2280
01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:00,800
okay jeff thanks for all right have a

2281
01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:04,320
good night i eat you thanks

2282
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:05,840
that was good i mean it's been great

2283
01:24:10,149 --> 01:24:07,360
tonight people

2284
01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:10,159
calling in uh anybody else i have any

2285
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:12,159
questions i'm gonna do like

2286
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:14,880
the top of the hour

2287
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:21,030
she will publicly push out info that is

2288
01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:23,120
largely unvettable but that doesn't mean

2289
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:25,360
some of it isn't correct yeah even if

2290
01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:28,080
outlandish i am open to outlandish i

2291
01:24:31,270 --> 01:24:30,080
laugh if some of the outlandish stuff is

2292
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:31,280
true i think i heard

2293
01:24:36,709 --> 01:24:34,000
dodie tell a story where he said these

2294
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,719
human-looking ets beamed into a room and

2295
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:38,800
started dismembering everybody i'm like

2296
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:40,880
if that happened uh i don't think people

2297
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:42,400
would react to that well but it's so

2298
01:24:46,149 --> 01:24:44,400
outlandish so you keep it on the side

2299
01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:46,159
you're like all right interesting

2300
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:50,400
ridiculous but no proof no evidence

2301
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:52,480
see any other questions

2302
01:24:56,629 --> 01:24:55,600
yeah i respect london for her work um

2303
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:56,639
i don't know if she's lost all

2304
01:25:00,390 --> 01:24:58,800
objectivity but

2305
01:25:02,070 --> 01:25:00,400
i don't usually pay attention to her

2306
01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:02,080
anymore i used to watch her live streams

2307
01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:07,510
the government will never come clean

2308
01:25:10,629 --> 01:25:09,120
well i don't know about the government i

2309
01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:10,639
think certain people will never come

2310
01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:12,880
clean who are still in control they'll

2311
01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:14,400
have to die off

2312
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:15,600
um

2313
01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:16,800
yeah it's going to be like i said

2314
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:18,639
interesting next year to see how this

2315
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:23,669
thanks lord ludacris it was nice having

2316
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:25,520
people calling and otherwise just me

2317
01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:31,990
i'm just gonna go down this list if i

2318
01:25:35,590 --> 01:25:34,159
can there we go linda lays our head down

2319
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:35,600
at night truly believing tomorrow will

2320
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:37,199
be the day they save us yeah i don't

2321
01:25:40,709 --> 01:25:39,040
know i don't think linda believes that

2322
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:40,719
they're going to save us because she has

2323
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:42,239
a lot of negativity if you read her

2324
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:43,760
books there's some scary stuff in her

2325
01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:44,639
books

2326
01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:47,199
um so she has

2327
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:48,719
parts of her books dealing with carla

2328
01:25:51,830 --> 01:25:50,320
turner and carla turner people need to

2329
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:51,840
check out her books they're all online

2330
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:54,000
for free there's videos of her she was

2331
01:25:58,950 --> 01:25:55,360
very

2332
01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:58,960
on didn't think that you know she's like

2333
01:26:01,910 --> 01:26:00,480
the hybrid program maybe a cover for

2334
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,920
something else you can't believe these

2335
01:26:05,830 --> 01:26:03,600
beings are always lying which jim

2336
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:05,840
semivan says too you know they lie they

2337
01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:08,159
cajole i mean but they're just out of

2338
01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:10,080
reach it's just out of reach whatever

2339
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:11,600
this is it's kind of like john keel

2340
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:13,679
which i know he's red keel uh semivan

2341
01:26:18,229 --> 01:26:16,560
has because he refers to him

2342
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:18,239
let's see

2343
01:26:21,430 --> 01:26:19,920
if linda would have an open mind towards

2344
01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:21,440
i don't want to turn this to bashing

2345
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:23,120
linda had an open mind towards

2346
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:24,320
questioning her reporting it would help

2347
01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:26,080
the knowledge of the subject growth she

2348
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:27,440
wants things to be a certain way rather

2349
01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:28,880
than they really are i kind of agree

2350
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,480
with that

2351
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:32,159
um

2352
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:34,320
yeah i'm at that point mark linda's up

2353
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:36,400
there i just i don't pay attention to

2354
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:38,480
her i don't ignore her but

2355
01:26:44,070 --> 01:26:41,760
i don't watch her live streams

2356
01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:44,080
carla turner

2357
01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:45,760
i mean carla turn up give me a second i

2358
01:26:52,229 --> 01:26:48,560
gotta get a drink

2359
01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:52,239
carla turner was one of my favorite

2360
01:26:56,950 --> 01:26:54,400
and i didn't really and i blew off i

2361
01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:56,960
blew her off for the longest time

2362
01:27:00,629 --> 01:26:58,400
because she was too out there for me at

2363
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,639
least i thought so at the time and then

2364
01:27:04,229 --> 01:27:02,880
i started reading some of her stuff

2365
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:04,239
a couple of years ago i'm like and

2366
01:27:07,669 --> 01:27:05,440
listening to her interviews like man

2367
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:07,679
this is really good stuff why have i not

2368
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:09,360
listened to this before

2369
01:27:13,030 --> 01:27:11,120
maybe i had read john keel at that point

2370
01:27:13,990 --> 01:27:13,040
so i was more open to it uh yeah her

2371
01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:14,000
books

2372
01:27:19,189 --> 01:27:16,239
into the fringe um

2373
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:19,199
she died of cancer gabby she had

2374
01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:21,120
a very aggressive type of cancer and

2375
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:22,480
everybody's like oh she was murdered i'm

2376
01:27:26,149 --> 01:27:24,000
like i don't know that but she had like

2377
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:26,159
some other people connected to ufos like

2378
01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:27,679
stephen schiff the congressman in new

2379
01:27:32,550 --> 01:27:30,239
mexico who went looking into roswell

2380
01:27:34,310 --> 01:27:32,560
dive of an aggressive cancer grier's

2381
01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:34,320
assistant died of an aggressive cancer

2382
01:27:37,910 --> 01:27:36,400
but i don't know i just there's no

2383
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:37,920
evidence of that but yeah she died of

2384
01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:40,320
cancer her lectures are on youtube

2385
01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:41,920
they're really good people need to check

2386
01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:43,040
them out

2387
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:45,360
she was on art bell she was one of the

2388
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:47,440
most well-spoken people when it comes to

2389
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:49,360
abductions did a lot of research with

2390
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:51,280
people had some

2391
01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:54,880
had some mylab type of uh witnesses

2392
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:56,480
had a conversation with one of her

2393
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:58,320
witnesses where

2394
01:28:01,430 --> 01:27:59,520
she's like i don't know where these

2395
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:01,440
beings come from and then a voice popped

2396
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:02,960
in on the phone she heard like a zip and

2397
01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:04,400
said we know exactly where they're from

2398
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:06,239
and there are a lot of them and then the

2399
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:08,159
thing ended zipped and her and her

2400
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:09,920
witness were like what the hell was that

2401
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:12,000
so if that's true there might be a group

2402
01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:13,920
and we've spoken about this before it

2403
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:15,360
might be a group that knows a hell of a

2404
01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:17,040
lot more than we do

2405
01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:18,880
when that comes out people are gonna be

2406
01:28:22,470 --> 01:28:20,560
like oh my god some of the most

2407
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:22,480
outlandish stories are true but i don't

2408
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:24,320
know that

2409
01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:26,560
if uap related ndas are to be reported

2410
01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:28,400
that presumably also means that someone

2411
01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:30,000
with an nda can come forward and discuss

2412
01:28:33,990 --> 01:28:31,360
their work without fear and say i have

2413
01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:34,000
an nda here's a copy yeah um it opens up

2414
01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:35,440
the door to so many people to come

2415
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:36,400
forward

2416
01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:37,840
uh

2417
01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:39,760
let's hope this gets passed and and the

2418
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:41,600
senate comes up with justice language

2419
01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:48,950
obviously we all want to see the faces

2420
01:28:52,149 --> 01:28:50,159
of these people who worked in these

2421
01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:52,159
programs on live television in congress

2422
01:28:54,550 --> 01:28:53,600
it would i would think it would be the

2423
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:54,560
most

2424
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:56,560
highly rated program meanwhile people

2425
01:29:00,870 --> 01:28:58,000
probably wouldn't even care they said i

2426
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:00,880
don't care who are these people aliens

2427
01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:02,880
craft i would hope that people would

2428
01:29:11,669 --> 01:29:04,719
watch and at least try to figure out

2429
01:29:11,679 --> 01:29:16,310
jay bro i don't know him

2430
01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:17,910
yeah anybody who says they think the

2431
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:19,840
government's preparing to cloak disclose

2432
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:22,639
i usually tune out because

2433
01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:24,560
i don't think the government is doing

2434
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:26,000
anything

2435
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:27,600
there may be a small group of people

2436
01:29:31,030 --> 01:29:29,520
advising lou on what to talk about

2437
01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:31,040
because it seems like he progresses as

2438
01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:32,719
time goes on i don't know i don't even

2439
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:34,480
know if that's true

2440
01:29:39,189 --> 01:29:36,960
um eric davis says there is no organized

2441
01:29:41,510 --> 01:29:39,199
disclosure it's the phenomenon that

2442
01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:41,520
pushes disclosure with certain sightings

2443
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:43,360
like

2444
01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:46,480
and i know people think 2019

2445
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,000
the events are drones let's just for

2446
01:29:51,189 --> 01:29:50,080
this argument say they weren't drones or

2447
01:29:53,750 --> 01:29:51,199
something else it doesn't have to be

2448
01:29:55,890 --> 01:29:53,760
2019 there could be an event like say if

2449
01:29:57,750 --> 01:29:55,900
there was a uh

2450
01:29:59,830 --> 01:29:57,760
[Music]

2451
01:30:01,590 --> 01:29:59,840
the phoenix lights we had another event

2452
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:01,600
like that it would force the government

2453
01:30:06,070 --> 01:30:03,040
to speak up that's what he means when

2454
01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:06,080
they the phenomenon forces disclosure so

2455
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:07,920
events like that

2456
01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:09,920
but i'm not even sure that's you know

2457
01:30:16,310 --> 01:30:14,400
you know you hear that events are or

2458
01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:16,320
thank you very much edwin

2459
01:30:21,189 --> 01:30:17,440
edward

2460
01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:21,199
encounters by jason reza giorgiani i

2461
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:23,360
don't know and i might have a book

2462
01:30:27,669 --> 01:30:25,920
by him but you need to explain it

2463
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:27,679
use the link so you can come on and tell

2464
01:30:31,830 --> 01:30:29,040
me about it

2465
01:30:35,189 --> 01:30:33,270
has her family ever talked about their

2466
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:35,199
experiences and thank you edward for

2467
01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:36,320
that

2468
01:30:38,790 --> 01:30:37,600
for the um

2469
01:30:39,990 --> 01:30:38,800
i forget what it's called because i

2470
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:40,000
haven't done

2471
01:30:44,709 --> 01:30:42,480
youtube in so long

2472
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:44,719
um super chat super chat thank you but

2473
01:30:48,470 --> 01:30:46,560
if you could explain jason reza or

2474
01:30:50,950 --> 01:30:48,480
johnny more maybe maybe it'll ring a

2475
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:50,960
bell because i don't know off hand

2476
01:30:54,310 --> 01:30:52,480
has carla turner's family ever talked

2477
01:30:56,070 --> 01:30:54,320
about her their experiences outside of

2478
01:30:57,750 --> 01:30:56,080
what is known on the in the books i have

2479
01:30:59,510 --> 01:30:57,760
not heard of anything i even i didn't

2480
01:31:01,750 --> 01:30:59,520
even know james

2481
01:31:03,030 --> 01:31:01,760
uh who that is all i know is i've

2482
01:31:04,310 --> 01:31:03,040
watched

2483
01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:04,320
a lot of her interviews and i could

2484
01:31:08,550 --> 01:31:05,920
watch her interviews over and i have

2485
01:31:10,149 --> 01:31:08,560
i've watched them repeatedly um

2486
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:10,159
she was just so knowledgeable and i

2487
01:31:14,070 --> 01:31:12,560
would make jokes like yeah she's she

2488
01:31:16,870 --> 01:31:14,080
would have been my third wife it's just

2489
01:31:19,030 --> 01:31:16,880
i just love the way she would speak

2490
01:31:20,709 --> 01:31:19,040
about things because

2491
01:31:22,070 --> 01:31:20,719
kind of like jim semivan she would speak

2492
01:31:23,270 --> 01:31:22,080
like i'm thinking of something then she

2493
01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:23,280
starts going

2494
01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:25,280
and talking about it semivan talks about

2495
01:31:28,790 --> 01:31:27,360
so many aspects of the phenomena that we

2496
01:31:30,229 --> 01:31:28,800
all wonder about

2497
01:31:32,709 --> 01:31:30,239
and i know people you know think he's a

2498
01:31:34,790 --> 01:31:32,719
cia former spy and

2499
01:31:36,550 --> 01:31:34,800
i never sensed anything anything

2500
01:31:37,990 --> 01:31:36,560
nefarious or anything secretive and i'm

2501
01:31:39,910 --> 01:31:38,000
sure certain things he can't talk about

2502
01:31:41,669 --> 01:31:39,920
but from him he answered so many

2503
01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:41,679
questions when he was on with stuart

2504
01:31:44,870 --> 01:31:43,199
stuart davis if you've never checked out

2505
01:31:47,110 --> 01:31:44,880
those interviews and i transcribed them

2506
01:31:48,709 --> 01:31:47,120
i just need to finish the transcriptions

2507
01:31:50,950 --> 01:31:48,719
i have so many transcriptions that i

2508
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:50,960
have basically done they just have to be

2509
01:31:54,229 --> 01:31:52,960
tidied up and be and done tomorrow i'll

2510
01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:54,239
try to get

2511
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:56,000
at least one out

2512
01:31:57,510 --> 01:31:56,330
um

2513
01:31:59,189 --> 01:31:57,520
[Music]

2514
01:32:00,550 --> 01:31:59,199
somebody said the other day on another

2515
01:32:02,070 --> 01:32:00,560
show that drones are the new swamp

2516
01:32:03,669 --> 01:32:02,080
guests it is so true i couldn't laugh

2517
01:32:05,910 --> 01:32:03,679
well drones are an issue drones are

2518
01:32:07,669 --> 01:32:05,920
drones are and i've seen drones that do

2519
01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:07,679
amazing things

2520
01:32:12,629 --> 01:32:10,480
so um

2521
01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:12,639
you know it's it'll probably be mixed in

2522
01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:13,440
with

2523
01:32:17,350 --> 01:32:15,280
some ufo sightings i don't know what's

2524
01:32:18,709 --> 01:32:17,360
going on like with nuclear bases nuclear

2525
01:32:20,870 --> 01:32:18,719
power plants when they're seeing drones

2526
01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:20,880
or the labeled drones and but they can't

2527
01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:22,639
do anything about it i don't we haven't

2528
01:32:26,629 --> 01:32:24,800
seen any video from those cases

2529
01:32:28,390 --> 01:32:26,639
so i don't know what to think of that

2530
01:32:29,510 --> 01:32:28,400
i know lou is insinuated that it's not

2531
01:32:31,110 --> 01:32:29,520
drones but

2532
01:32:32,470 --> 01:32:31,120
don't know do you think this new man

2533
01:32:34,149 --> 01:32:32,480
will and

2534
01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:34,159
do you think this new amendment will

2535
01:32:37,990 --> 01:32:36,000
allow davis to speak to congress without

2536
01:32:40,390 --> 01:32:38,000
reprisal from aerospace corporation or

2537
01:32:42,790 --> 01:32:40,400
do you think it's not an issue no no

2538
01:32:45,110 --> 01:32:42,800
if if if congress wants to speak to eric

2539
01:32:46,149 --> 01:32:45,120
davis aerospace will not get in the way

2540
01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:46,159
aerospace

2541
01:32:49,189 --> 01:32:48,239
just doesn't want him to get to do media

2542
01:32:50,149 --> 01:32:49,199
but

2543
01:32:51,590 --> 01:32:50,159
um

2544
01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:51,600
just because the new york times article

2545
01:32:55,189 --> 01:32:53,360
they were mentioned they weren't happy

2546
01:32:56,790 --> 01:32:55,199
so that's why that happened

2547
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:56,800
and

2548
01:32:59,910 --> 01:32:57,920
but

2549
01:33:01,990 --> 01:32:59,920
if eric davis didn't work in any of

2550
01:33:03,910 --> 01:33:02,000
these programs and i have no knowledge

2551
01:33:06,229 --> 01:33:03,920
that he did i'd rather hear from the

2552
01:33:07,830 --> 01:33:06,239
people in the programs you know if eric

2553
01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:07,840
davis is giving them information on

2554
01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:09,280
where to look for the programs that's

2555
01:33:13,030 --> 01:33:10,800
great but you don't really need to hear

2556
01:33:14,629 --> 01:33:13,040
that in a hearing um

2557
01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:14,639
but there are stuff there's stuff in my

2558
01:33:17,990 --> 01:33:16,480
opinion that eric davis i don't know if

2559
01:33:19,430 --> 01:33:18,000
he has first-hand information or he

2560
01:33:20,950 --> 01:33:19,440
learned it from other people if it's not

2561
01:33:23,669 --> 01:33:20,960
first-hand information then you want to

2562
01:33:25,189 --> 01:33:23,679
get the people he spoke to not him but

2563
01:33:27,189 --> 01:33:25,199
he may have firsthand information i

2564
01:33:29,590 --> 01:33:27,199
don't know you know i don't know every

2565
01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:29,600
detail of what he's learned

2566
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:31,600
i would love to think he worked or is

2567
01:33:35,270 --> 01:33:33,120
working in the crash retrieval program

2568
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:35,280
but i have no information on that as far

2569
01:33:38,709 --> 01:33:37,040
as i know he's working on nasa related

2570
01:33:39,990 --> 01:33:38,719
stuff at aerospace and if he is working

2571
01:33:42,070 --> 01:33:40,000
in any other program he's not going to

2572
01:33:46,629 --> 01:33:42,080
be able to tell us

2573
01:33:51,030 --> 01:33:49,189
a joseph farrell on steroids actually

2574
01:33:53,030 --> 01:33:51,040
joseph pharaoh why i may not agree with

2575
01:33:55,669 --> 01:33:53,040
a lot of his takes i actually liked

2576
01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:55,679
joseph farrell um

2577
01:33:59,110 --> 01:33:57,280
interesting to listen to

2578
01:34:00,470 --> 01:33:59,120
but i really haven't spent too much time

2579
01:34:01,910 --> 01:34:00,480
on him

2580
01:34:04,870 --> 01:34:01,920
giorgiani is an expert on ancient

2581
01:34:06,950 --> 01:34:04,880
persian culture and methodic philosophy

2582
01:34:08,550 --> 01:34:06,960
is positively brilliant

2583
01:34:10,310 --> 01:34:08,560
oh so you're saying positive i thought

2584
01:34:11,669 --> 01:34:10,320
you were saying that disparagingly with

2585
01:34:14,149 --> 01:34:11,679
feral because a lot of people don't like

2586
01:34:15,910 --> 01:34:14,159
farrell so i will have to check that out

2587
01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:15,920
and add it to my list of books that i

2588
01:34:21,110 --> 01:34:19,280
have not read that are piling up

2589
01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:21,120
he's also an intense proponent of

2590
01:34:25,510 --> 01:34:23,440
arianism though he would reject hitler

2591
01:34:27,110 --> 01:34:25,520
okay

2592
01:34:28,229 --> 01:34:27,120
i know when i get into somebody who's

2593
01:34:29,189 --> 01:34:28,239
interesting

2594
01:34:30,629 --> 01:34:29,199
um

2595
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:30,639
turns out they're

2596
01:34:34,709 --> 01:34:32,800
they've got negative

2597
01:34:35,830 --> 01:34:34,719
baggage and i get slammed for it which i

2598
01:34:37,270 --> 01:34:35,840
didn't even know they had negative

2599
01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:37,280
baggage before i started reading their

2600
01:34:40,629 --> 01:34:38,960
stuff i remember the quote by eric davis

2601
01:34:42,550 --> 01:34:40,639
i interpreted it as people can't do

2602
01:34:43,910 --> 01:34:42,560
nothing but expect for

2603
01:34:45,270 --> 01:34:43,920
for clearer signings i don't think he

2604
01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:45,280
was implying that the phenomena itself

2605
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:47,280
had intentions of its own i don't think

2606
01:34:51,030 --> 01:34:49,280
it was intentions i just whatever

2607
01:34:53,669 --> 01:34:51,040
happens that's what drives it and it

2608
01:34:55,830 --> 01:34:53,679
drives us and it's not some organized

2609
01:34:57,990 --> 01:34:55,840
government program that's planning this

2610
01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:58,000
out in the long term and he says it's

2611
01:35:02,149 --> 01:35:00,480
just the government is too you know it's

2612
01:35:03,590 --> 01:35:02,159
a monolith that's just the left hand

2613
01:35:04,470 --> 01:35:03,600
doesn't know what the right hand is

2614
01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:04,480
doing

2615
01:35:09,270 --> 01:35:06,480
so that's what that was his opinion

2616
01:35:10,629 --> 01:35:09,280
that's not government driven

2617
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:10,639
lou said he would walk away before

2618
01:35:14,070 --> 01:35:12,239
putting national security at risk or

2619
01:35:16,149 --> 01:35:14,080
something close to that so he would

2620
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:16,159
really be 100 open in a public hearing

2621
01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:17,360
theoretical

2622
01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:24,870
i don't know if lou would be 100 open

2623
01:35:28,950 --> 01:35:27,040
100 no um

2624
01:35:30,629 --> 01:35:28,960
like i said they're not going to talk

2625
01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:30,639
about classified information in an open

2626
01:35:35,030 --> 01:35:32,880
hearing the most we can expect in an

2627
01:35:37,189 --> 01:35:35,040
open hearing is sensitive information

2628
01:35:39,430 --> 01:35:37,199
that's not classified or

2629
01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:39,440
they can take classified information and

2630
01:35:43,189 --> 01:35:41,679
lower the classification so we can hear

2631
01:35:44,629 --> 01:35:43,199
about it because you know there's over

2632
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:44,639
you know there's overclock over

2633
01:35:53,669 --> 01:35:46,800
classification on a lot of the ufo stuff

2634
01:35:58,470 --> 01:35:55,990
eric will lose all future grants had to

2635
01:36:01,910 --> 01:35:58,480
be a fool to talk yeah if eric is called

2636
01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:01,920
before congress though he can talk

2637
01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:04,000
talking about wilson davis without any

2638
01:36:07,669 --> 01:36:05,520
protection would be a mistake although i

2639
01:36:09,669 --> 01:36:07,679
don't think he would be in legal trouble

2640
01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:09,679
you never know but

2641
01:36:12,709 --> 01:36:11,360
i mean he wasn't he didn't have a

2642
01:36:15,109 --> 01:36:12,719
clearance when he met with admiral

2643
01:36:16,709 --> 01:36:15,119
wilson in 2002 so i don't think he was

2644
01:36:18,149 --> 01:36:16,719
on the hook to even be quiet he just

2645
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:18,159
made an agreement with wilson that he

2646
01:36:22,629 --> 01:36:20,880
wouldn't go public with it

2647
01:36:24,709 --> 01:36:22,639
giorgiani thinks that we are all moving

2648
01:36:27,430 --> 01:36:24,719
towards a transhumanist dystopia unless

2649
01:36:28,870 --> 01:36:27,440
stronghold people act he is a steeped in

2650
01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:28,880
agileness i don't i don't know what that

2651
01:36:33,510 --> 01:36:31,280
last thing is you have to explain that

2652
01:36:36,070 --> 01:36:33,520
um

2653
01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:36,080
but i'm not sure if i'm gonna yeah send

2654
01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:39,199
me a link edward i appreciate that

2655
01:36:43,830 --> 01:36:41,920
because i really don't know

2656
01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:43,840
joseph farrell has lost his way badly i

2657
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:45,119
haven't i haven't listened to him in a

2658
01:36:48,390 --> 01:36:46,880
long way a long time person i listened

2659
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:48,400
to yesterday was

2660
01:36:53,350 --> 01:36:51,360
gerald celente oh my god grow up

2661
01:36:56,950 --> 01:36:53,360
everybody grow up i don't know if you

2662
01:37:03,669 --> 01:36:58,070
he has

2663
01:37:07,109 --> 01:37:05,350
farrell now spouse truly dangerous

2664
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:07,119
nonsense daily very sad to watch it yeah

2665
01:37:09,990 --> 01:37:08,639
i haven't watched him in a while i used

2666
01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:10,000
to like some of what he said and i have

2667
01:37:14,470 --> 01:37:12,080
one of his books when i worked on pawn

2668
01:37:15,510 --> 01:37:14,480
stars one of the fans of rick the main

2669
01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:15,520
guy had

2670
01:37:18,310 --> 01:37:17,119
a joseph farrell book and i said can i

2671
01:37:20,229 --> 01:37:18,320
borrow this rick he's like yeah make

2672
01:37:21,109 --> 01:37:20,239
sure you bring it back i didn't bring it

2673
01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:21,119
back

2674
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:23,440
i don't think rick misses it though

2675
01:37:26,390 --> 01:37:25,040
lou can be released from his nda and

2676
01:37:28,310 --> 01:37:26,400
then openly discuss matters in the way

2677
01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:28,320
he knows how which will open the doors

2678
01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:29,760
of many congressional minds yes he'll

2679
01:37:32,709 --> 01:37:31,280
talk about a lot more he's not going to

2680
01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:32,719
talk about stuff that's classified

2681
01:37:35,510 --> 01:37:34,080
obviously but there's a lot more he can

2682
01:37:37,189 --> 01:37:35,520
talk about

2683
01:37:38,790 --> 01:37:37,199
i think people

2684
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:38,800
yeah there's things he will tell people

2685
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:40,080
uh privately

2686
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:41,920
uh he can't say publicly but it's not

2687
01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:44,000
obviously not classified so that kind of

2688
01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:46,000
stuff can come out

2689
01:37:49,030 --> 01:37:47,440
giorgiani has done a number of thinking

2690
01:37:51,109 --> 01:37:49,040
aloud videos with jeffrey mitchell i

2691
01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:51,119
wonder if i know this guy it's an older

2692
01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:53,040
guy there are a lot of nasty allegations

2693
01:37:58,870 --> 01:37:54,320
about him i'll have to look that up

2694
01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:00,709
i did not know michelle obviously had a

2695
01:38:04,550 --> 01:38:03,040
bad falling out michelle backed away do

2696
01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:04,560
i have a sense of eric's ethics how

2697
01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:06,480
important is disclosure versus career

2698
01:38:11,189 --> 01:38:09,119
prospects for example um

2699
01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:11,199
good question uh i think eric back in

2700
01:38:15,430 --> 01:38:13,920
2000 if you read the alien autopsy notes

2701
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:15,440
everybody should read that and use

2702
01:38:19,830 --> 01:38:17,520
everybody should listen to the interview

2703
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:19,840
uh the video that richard dolan did and

2704
01:38:23,270 --> 01:38:21,520
his article on his interview with kit

2705
01:38:25,990 --> 01:38:23,280
green which is so good

2706
01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:26,000
um talks about kit green being allegedly

2707
01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:28,159
shown videos or pictures of

2708
01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:30,480
alien autopsy years before the alien

2709
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:32,080
autopsy um

2710
01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:34,000
and eric davis in those notes talks

2711
01:38:37,990 --> 01:38:35,840
about why is all of this being kept from

2712
01:38:39,669 --> 01:38:38,000
the public what's the benefit of keeping

2713
01:38:41,590 --> 01:38:39,679
all of this information

2714
01:38:43,750 --> 01:38:41,600
from the public so he wants he wants

2715
01:38:45,590 --> 01:38:43,760
disclosure

2716
01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:45,600
also though you know he's worked in the

2717
01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:48,400
world of the defense so

2718
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:50,400
national security is a big issue for him

2719
01:38:53,990 --> 01:38:52,080
but i think he would love to get as much

2720
01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:54,000
information out as possible as long as

2721
01:38:57,590 --> 01:38:56,159
we're not giving our adversaries in any

2722
01:38:59,669 --> 01:38:57,600
sort of advantage

2723
01:39:01,030 --> 01:38:59,679
i think it can be done

2724
01:39:02,870 --> 01:39:01,040
especially with

2725
01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:02,880
if we have a crash retrieval program

2726
01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:04,560
everybody deserves to know that and

2727
01:39:07,750 --> 01:39:06,080
bodies i don't think that gives away

2728
01:39:09,669 --> 01:39:07,760
anything if we have that stuff i don't

2729
01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:09,679
think it hurts us adversarial with our

2730
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:11,520
adversaries

2731
01:39:14,229 --> 01:39:12,880
so

2732
01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:14,239
let's see what's this

2733
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:17,280
i don't know what that is so i'm taking

2734
01:39:19,990 --> 01:39:18,719
i off

2735
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:20,000
all right how do i get rid of this

2736
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:27,510
blocked

2737
01:39:31,030 --> 01:39:28,800
sorry

2738
01:39:33,109 --> 01:39:31,040
are these ndas preventing people from

2739
01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:33,119
talking to congress behind closed doors

2740
01:39:38,830 --> 01:39:35,840
today i don't think so in a classified

2741
01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:38,840
setting they are not

2742
01:39:42,310 --> 01:39:40,480
um

2743
01:39:44,950 --> 01:39:42,320
but

2744
01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:44,960
regular folks who are involved in on the

2745
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:47,199
books programs but on the off the books

2746
01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:48,960
programs i don't think they feel

2747
01:39:52,390 --> 01:39:50,159
comfortable

2748
01:39:54,070 --> 01:39:52,400
i mean it's so secretive i mean

2749
01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:54,080
i don't think yeah i don't think these

2750
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:55,520
folks would feel comfortable talking to

2751
01:39:59,750 --> 01:39:58,080
congress unless specific immunity

2752
01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:59,760
language is in there

2753
01:40:03,750 --> 01:40:01,280
obviously they'd have you'd have to talk

2754
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:03,760
to them yourselves i'm not sure

2755
01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:06,159
how that works with a an unacknowledged

2756
01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:07,600
or you know waived unacknowledged

2757
01:40:12,149 --> 01:40:10,719
special access program

2758
01:40:13,510 --> 01:40:12,159
do you think the main benefit here will

2759
01:40:15,590 --> 01:40:13,520
be getting people to come forward that

2760
01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:15,600
congress doesn't already know of yes yes

2761
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:17,520
yes um

2762
01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:19,360
like i said in the wilson davis notes it

2763
01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:21,600
says the bigot list was 400 to 800

2764
01:40:25,510 --> 01:40:23,600
people if that's true then there's so

2765
01:40:27,430 --> 01:40:25,520
many people that can come forward

2766
01:40:34,550 --> 01:40:27,440
we need a line of witnesses to come

2767
01:40:37,910 --> 01:40:36,550
all right

2768
01:40:41,350 --> 01:40:37,920
mark is trying to compete with my

2769
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:45,109
i'm glad i inspired you

2770
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:47,430
georgiani seems to believe the academic

2771
01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:48,719
elite should run the world because the

2772
01:40:54,629 --> 01:40:50,560
rest of us are too stupid that kind of

2773
01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:54,639
turned me off to his material um

2774
01:40:57,590 --> 01:40:56,080
it's similar to the people who

2775
01:40:59,430 --> 01:40:57,600
supposedly are in control of these

2776
01:41:01,830 --> 01:40:59,440
special access programs and this you

2777
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:01,840
know alleged crash retrieval stuff that

2778
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:03,520
they don't think that we deserve the

2779
01:41:07,189 --> 01:41:05,199
information or we can handle it because

2780
01:41:08,709 --> 01:41:07,199
we're too stupid watching reality shows

2781
01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:08,719
which

2782
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:10,800
let's face it

2783
01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:11,760
you know

2784
01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:14,080
we dedicate our species dedicates a lot

2785
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,550
i don't know if that i don't know if

2786
01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:20,800
that will ever change you know it's it's

2787
01:41:23,990 --> 01:41:22,480
not hopeless but it's

2788
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:24,000
not encouraging

2789
01:41:26,950 --> 01:41:25,600
close encounters is great you may

2790
01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:26,960
recognize some of the theories in the

2791
01:41:30,310 --> 01:41:28,719
book is regarding colin's elite the

2792
01:41:32,550 --> 01:41:30,320
origin of the et a fun read i'll have to

2793
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:32,560
check it out it's another call i want to

2794
01:41:39,950 --> 01:41:35,199
read nick redfern's collins elite book

2795
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,590
capara captain thanks i appreciate that

2796
01:41:47,030 --> 01:41:45,199
uh

2797
01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:47,040
i'm glad i did this tonight it's been a

2798
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:48,719
little bit all right i think i've had

2799
01:41:54,149 --> 01:41:51,280
enough georgiani for the night i need to

2800
01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:54,159
see the link and i'll read it um

2801
01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:56,800
i'll try to like i said i still have so

2802
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:03,830
what um it even goes over the on

2803
01:42:09,990 --> 01:42:07,280
abduction in new york city oh that's a

2804
01:42:12,149 --> 01:42:10,000
bud hopkins book witnessed which is a

2805
01:42:14,310 --> 01:42:12,159
great read

2806
01:42:16,229 --> 01:42:14,320
don't know if i believe all that story

2807
01:42:18,149 --> 01:42:16,239
because it's so weird with the police

2808
01:42:18,590 --> 01:42:18,159
involved and the witnesses

2809
01:42:21,669 --> 01:42:18,600
um

2810
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:21,679
[Music]

2811
01:42:26,709 --> 01:42:22,560
so

2812
01:42:29,750 --> 01:42:26,719
today i got a job i'm working on the

2813
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:29,760
usher show not a big fan of usher but

2814
01:42:33,430 --> 01:42:31,679
i've done a show before it's at the mgm

2815
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:33,440
so i'm going to be gone for a while some

2816
01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:35,440
of the days are full time

2817
01:42:38,629 --> 01:42:36,880
but i need to work it's been a while

2818
01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:38,639
actually i was thinking i need some work

2819
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:40,400
and then it popped up so

2820
01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:42,960
good timing

2821
01:42:47,350 --> 01:42:45,119
thanks pics it was good have a good

2822
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:47,360
night everybody i think i'm going to go

2823
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:48,719
last one if if

2824
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:49,600
if

2825
01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:51,040
it even goes over some missing time

2826
01:42:55,270 --> 01:42:52,719
people missing in national park see i'm

2827
01:42:58,310 --> 01:42:55,280
really curious about the um missing

2828
01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:58,320
9-1-1 missing 4-1-1

2829
01:43:01,990 --> 01:42:59,760
um

2830
01:43:07,109 --> 01:43:02,000
i forget his name what's his name

2831
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:08,950
thanks so much teresa thank you thank

2832
01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:11,280
you thank you i'm glad people chimed in

2833
01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:12,719
for the first time hopefully we get more

2834
01:43:16,310 --> 01:43:14,639
of it it wasn't like a spaces but it

2835
01:43:18,470 --> 01:43:16,320
could be like a space as more people

2836
01:43:19,750 --> 01:43:18,480
came on i can i could put as much people

2837
01:43:22,629 --> 01:43:19,760
in the waiting room i'm not sure i could

2838
01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:22,639
put a lot of people in the waiting room

2839
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:24,080
yeah thanks you'll get to watch it later

2840
01:43:26,870 --> 01:43:25,600
jonathan it was a little slow in the

2841
01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:26,880
beginning trying to make my way through

2842
01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:28,960
that language um but

2843
01:43:32,070 --> 01:43:30,560
basically

2844
01:43:33,669 --> 01:43:32,080
to recap

2845
01:43:35,910 --> 01:43:33,679
these people will be protected if they

2846
01:43:38,390 --> 01:43:35,920
come forward related to ufo information

2847
01:43:40,629 --> 01:43:38,400
and if the program of the ufo program is

2848
01:43:43,990 --> 01:43:40,639
not reported to congress then all bets

2849
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:44,000
are off those programs are not protected

2850
01:43:47,590 --> 01:43:45,840
you can't use the national security

2851
01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:47,600
excuse if a program hasn't been reported

2852
01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:50,000
to congress so those two things immunity

2853
01:43:53,590 --> 01:43:51,840
and we can go after those programs in

2854
01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:53,600
theory but we need to just we need the

2855
01:44:00,070 --> 01:43:56,400
senate language too um and we got a long

2856
01:44:01,109 --> 01:44:00,080
ways to go on all of this it's one step

2857
01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:01,119
what do you think of the idea that the

2858
01:44:04,390 --> 01:44:02,880
ufo other intelligence don't doesn't

2859
01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:04,400
like government but like people like

2860
01:44:09,590 --> 01:44:07,600
chris bledsoe um

2861
01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:09,600
the blood i believe chris bledsoe has

2862
01:44:14,390 --> 01:44:11,840
had real experiences but

2863
01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:14,400
you know i think he has these

2864
01:44:18,310 --> 01:44:16,239
interpretations of what it is and i

2865
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:18,320
don't buy into that i just don't know i

2866
01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:20,800
don't know he's more like it's angelic

2867
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:22,080
so

2868
01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:24,400
uh whether or not the the phenomena

2869
01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:27,440
likes civilians over government i mean

2870
01:44:30,550 --> 01:44:28,800
yeah i don't know government people have

2871
01:44:31,990 --> 01:44:30,560
had some positive experiences too i

2872
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:32,000
think it's across the board all

2873
01:44:34,629 --> 01:44:33,280
different folks have different

2874
01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:34,639
experiences whether or not they're in a

2875
01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:36,159
government you can make the argument

2876
01:44:39,669 --> 01:44:37,520
though the folks in the government and

2877
01:44:41,350 --> 01:44:39,679
skinwalker were having the negative

2878
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:41,360
experiences but not everybody it was

2879
01:44:45,189 --> 01:44:43,119
like the one guy on the west coast his

2880
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:45,199
daughter had hitchhiker experiences

2881
01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:46,960
where she took her the

2882
01:44:50,229 --> 01:44:48,320
took stuff home to her house in

2883
01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:50,239
connecticut from oregon

2884
01:44:53,669 --> 01:44:51,280
i don't think she was part of the

2885
01:44:55,189 --> 01:44:53,679
government her father was so they get a

2886
01:44:57,590 --> 01:44:55,199
attack somebody because guilt by

2887
01:44:58,629 --> 01:44:57,600
association you know attack is a strong

2888
01:45:01,590 --> 01:44:58,639
word

2889
01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:03,910
why does joe's house look like it was

2890
01:45:09,430 --> 01:45:06,560
decorated in 1997 because it was

2891
01:45:12,310 --> 01:45:09,440
decorated in 1997.

2892
01:45:14,629 --> 01:45:12,320
i have it frozen in time

2893
01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:14,639
yep good night david paulie politis that

2894
01:45:18,149 --> 01:45:16,480
is the one who does missing 4-1-1 i

2895
01:45:19,990 --> 01:45:18,159
liked his documentaries really weird

2896
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:20,000
stuff

2897
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:21,840
so

2898
01:45:33,510 --> 01:45:31,270
has butt hopkins addressed the creepy

2899
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:33,520
send your underpants stuff no i don't

2900
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:35,600
think butter bud hopkins has been asked

2901
01:45:40,229 --> 01:45:37,600
about david jacobs and

2902
01:45:42,950 --> 01:45:40,239
the way i understood it is

2903
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:42,960
emma woods was throwing out evidence and

2904
01:45:46,709 --> 01:45:44,639
she claims that she she believed that

2905
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:46,719
the phenomenon was somehow influencing

2906
01:45:51,109 --> 01:45:48,560
her throwing out evidence so david

2907
01:45:53,830 --> 01:45:51,119
jacobs gave her a suggestion kind of

2908
01:45:56,149 --> 01:45:53,840
like a semi-hypnotic suggestion to not

2909
01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:56,159
throw your underwear out just after you

2910
01:46:01,990 --> 01:45:58,960
have an experience mail them to me um i

2911
01:46:03,669 --> 01:46:02,000
got a lot of flack because i i i was

2912
01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:03,679
quote unquote

2913
01:46:06,629 --> 01:46:05,600
not arguing with emma woods on twitter

2914
01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:06,639
but

2915
01:46:10,550 --> 01:46:08,400
i was kind of pushing her for some

2916
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:10,560
answers and people got mad at me

2917
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:12,159
somebody called me a sexual assault

2918
01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:14,400
apologist and i wrote to emma privately

2919
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:16,320
and i still write to her occasionally

2920
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:18,320
and i will interview her i just need to

2921
01:46:23,189 --> 01:46:21,440
read her book so we're good um

2922
01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:23,199
i told her i apologize for coming on too

2923
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:24,719
strong but that wasn't my intent i was

2924
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:26,320
trying to get the hell to the bottom of

2925
01:46:29,189 --> 01:46:27,679
the story of what happened with david

2926
01:46:31,430 --> 01:46:29,199
jacobs because i have other people i

2927
01:46:32,870 --> 01:46:31,440
spoke to who support jacob's 100

2928
01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:32,880
i didn't put any of that out i just

2929
01:46:37,189 --> 01:46:35,760
decided to leave it alone um emma woods

2930
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:37,199
i've started reading her book about her

2931
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:39,199
experiences it's it's good

2932
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:41,600
um it's a good start i just need to

2933
01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:43,199
take the time to read it

2934
01:46:47,990 --> 01:46:46,080
thanks histories mysteries and last one

2935
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:48,000
last one i gotta go

2936
01:46:51,109 --> 01:46:50,080
gallagher is my new hero yeah i made a

2937
01:46:53,270 --> 01:46:51,119
joke

2938
01:46:54,709 --> 01:46:53,280
last month or two months ago that i was

2939
01:46:57,030 --> 01:46:54,719
turning republican just because of

2940
01:47:00,470 --> 01:46:57,040
gallagher i'm obviously kidding because

2941
01:47:01,910 --> 01:47:00,480
i'm very far left but i'm a lot of stuff

2942
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:01,920
it's a good face for this movement i

2943
01:47:05,270 --> 01:47:03,360
agree he's young

2944
01:47:06,629 --> 01:47:05,280
decent looking uh berkshire is a great

2945
01:47:08,149 --> 01:47:06,639
guy but i don't know about him being the

2946
01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:08,159
face of the community i agree on that

2947
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:09,760
too no offense i love the guy he's great

2948
01:47:15,669 --> 01:47:12,880
but i i agree um gallagher is much

2949
01:47:18,709 --> 01:47:15,679
better gillibrand is good gallagher

2950
01:47:20,149 --> 01:47:18,719
rubio gillibrand all of them

2951
01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:20,159
so

2952
01:47:25,030 --> 01:47:22,080
no i have not listened to the i do want

2953
01:47:26,950 --> 01:47:25,040
the three-part semi-van lavenda podcast

2954
01:47:29,270 --> 01:47:26,960
i love peter lavender

2955
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:29,280
and

2956
01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:39,189
yeah i don't know what's going on at

2957
01:47:43,590 --> 01:47:40,800
skinwalker ranch i know a lot of people

2958
01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:43,600
think it's coming from the folks and you

2959
01:47:46,629 --> 01:47:44,480
know

2960
01:47:48,149 --> 01:47:46,639
some people think the fear is induced so

2961
01:47:49,430 --> 01:47:48,159
they can feed off of the fear whatever

2962
01:47:50,470 --> 01:47:49,440
that is there's some people think that

2963
01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:50,480
it's coming

2964
01:47:55,830 --> 01:47:52,719
it's being based on whatever you put out

2965
01:47:57,350 --> 01:47:55,840
it puts back i don't know i mean

2966
01:47:59,430 --> 01:47:57,360
i really don't know i mean but there are

2967
01:48:00,950 --> 01:47:59,440
horses who have been injured really dogs

2968
01:48:02,790 --> 01:48:00,960
that have been incinerated that doesn't

2969
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:02,800
seem positive to me there were no humans

2970
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:08,950
have you seen stranger things

2971
01:48:12,229 --> 01:48:11,040
not the new one i have not seen the new

2972
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:12,239
one so

2973
01:48:17,510 --> 01:48:15,119
anyway yeah thanks for watching folks

2974
01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:17,520
and thank you to the people who who came

2975
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,400
in and spoke because without that it's a

2976
01:48:23,350 --> 01:48:22,560
little boring just me talking

2977
01:48:26,310 --> 01:48:23,360
and

2978
01:48:29,109 --> 01:48:26,320
also thank you for the super chat

2979
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:29,119
edward i think um

2980
01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:30,960
i appreciate that

2981
01:48:36,870 --> 01:48:34,320
and 11 and gabby everybody have a good

2982
01:48:39,270 --> 01:48:36,880
night i will talk to you soon

2983
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:39,280
it may be a while because this job i

2984
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:40,880
have coming up has like a whole bunch of

2985
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:42,960
nights in a row and they're full days i